UNCLASSIFIED RELEASED B1 PAGE 01 SECTO 17024 01 OF 06 250720Z ACTION NODS-OO INFO CCOE-00 ADS-00 000w FD024B 2507212 33 0 2502512 OCT 93 ZFF4 FM USDEL SECRETARY IN UKRAINE TO SECSTATE WASHDC IMMEDIATE 9747 INFO AMEMBASSY MOSCOW 01 OF 06 SECTO 17024 - DECAPTIONED E O 12356 TAGS OVIP CHRISTOPHER WARREN PREL RU SUBJECT SECRETARY MEETING WITH FOREIGN MINISTER KOZYREV NATO ELECTIONS REGIONAL ISSUES 1 -- ENTIRE mm 2 SUMMARY IN THE SMALL GROUP PORTION OF THEIR OCTOBER 22 MEETING SECRETARY CHRISTOPHER BRIEFED KOZYREV ON THE NATO PARTNERSHIP FOR PEACE PROPOSAL THEY DISCUSSED ELECTION OBSERVERS AND U S SUPPORT FOR THE ELECTION PROCESS AS WELL AS THE ISSUE OF PRESS FREEDOM AND ACCESS TO THE PRESS ON GEORGIA KOZYREV SAID THE RUSSIANS WERE INTRODUCI TROOPS TO KEEP OPEN I I 8 PAGE 02 SECTO 17024 '01 OF 06 2507202 THE RAILROAD FROM POTI THIS COULD HELP SHEVARDNADZE AND KOZYREV AGREED TO GIVE PUBLIC SUPPORT AGAIN TO SHEVARDNADZE 0N UKRAINE SECRETARY CHRISTOPHER AND AMBASSADOR TALBOTT BRIEFED KOZYREV ON OUR EFFORTS TO - CHRISTOPHER RAISED THE LUBAVITCHER BOOKS AND KOZYREV NOTED THE RECENT AGREEMENT TO HOUSE THEM SEPARATELY END SUMMARY UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF STATE REVIEW AUTHORITY FRANK TUMMINIA ID 11 MAR 2003 200001030 UNCLASSIFIED ae '0 Page B1 B1 1 UNCLASSIFIED 2 SECRETARY CHRISTOPHER MET FOREIGN MINISTER KOZYREV SMALL MEETING ON OCTOBER 22 AT THE FOREIGN MINISTRY GUEST HOUSE KOZYREV WAS ACCOMPANIED BY DEPUTY FOREIGN MINISTER MAMEDOV AND AN THE SECRETARY WAS ACCOMPANIED BY AMBASSADOR-AT-LARGE TALBOTT AND AMBASSADOR PICKERING NATO PAGE 01 SECTO 17024 02 OF 06 2507212 ACTION NODS-OO INFO LOG-00 CCOE-OO ADS-00 000w FD0270 2507232 33 0 2502512 93 ZFF4 FM USDEL SECRETARY IN UKRAINE TO SECSTATE WASHDC IMMEDIATE 9743 INFO AMEMBASSY moscow 02 0F 06 SECTO 17024 E O 12356 TAGS OVIP CHRISTOPHER WARREN PREL RU SUBJECT SECRETARY MEETING WITH FOREIGN MINISTER KOZYREV NATO ELECTIONS REGIONAL ISSUES 3 OPENING THE MEETING SECRETARY CHRISTOPHER SAID HE WANTED TO REVIEW BRIEFLY WHERE WE WERE NOW IN NATO EXPANSION HE WOULD OF COURSE BE TALKING WITH PRESIDENT YELTSIN ABOUT THIS AND HE WANTED KOZYREV TO KNOW THAT WE WERE SENSITIVE TO THE RUSSIAN POSITION AND THAT WE HAD DEVELOPED A PROPOSAL THAT BALANCED VARIOUS OBJECTIVES AND INTERESTS THERE WOULD BE NO UNCLASSIFIED Page 2 Page 2 UNCLASSIFIED PAGE 02 SECTO 17024 02 OF 06 2507212 IMMEDIATE PROVISION FOR NEW MEMBERSHIPS AND NO ASSOCIATE NO ONE WOULD BE EXCLUDED AND THE PARTNERSHIP FOR PEACE WOULD BE OPEN TO ALL THE NACC COUNTRIES EVENTUAL ALLIANCE MEMBERSHIP WOULD BE BASED ON PERFORMANCE AND OTHER FOR NOW THE DOOR TO FUTURE MEMBERSHIP WAS OPEN TO ALL ON AN EQUAL BASIS HE BELIEVED THAT THIS MET REQUIREMENTS 4 KOZYREV ASKED POINTEDLY WHETHER THERE WOULD NOT BE TWO OR THREE NEW MEMBERS SECRETARY CHRISTOPHER SAID NO THAT WE WERE EMPHASIZING A PARTNERSHIP FOR PEACE WHICH WOULD INVOLVE TRAINING AND EXERCISES IN DEALING WITH SECURITY QUESTIONS AND THAT THIS PARTNERSHIP WOULD HELP DEVELOP A HABIT OF INTEROPERABILITY AND COOPERATION IT WOULD DEFINITELY BE OPEN TO ALL AND THERE WOULD BE NO PREDETERMINED NEW MEMBERS ELECTIONS 5 THE SECRETARY ASKED ABOUT THE COMING ELECTIONS NOTING THAT WE HAD UP TO USD 12 MILLION TO PROVIDE ASSISTANCE TO RUSSIA AND WE WERE PREPARED TO SEND MONITORS OR OBSERVERS KOZYREV IN TURN NOTED THAT HE WOULD HOPE TO FIND A WAY TO USE U S ASSISTANCE TO BENEFIT THE ELECTORAL PROCESS HE SAID THERE WAS A STRONG DANGER OF AN EFFORT TO TRY TO POLITICIZE THE ELECTIONS PARTICULARLY IN SOME OF THE RURAL REGIONS WHERE THE OLD PRACTICES OF THE COMMUNIST REGIME PREVAILED WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE FOR THE OBSERVERS TO PAGE 03 SECTO 17024 02 OF 06 2507212 HELP IN VERIFYING TO GUARD AGAINST SUCH ABUSES EVEN IN AREAS OF THE COUNTRY DIFFICULT TO HE CALLED THIS THE OLD KOLKHOZ MENTALITY WHERE FARM ORGANIZATIONS CONTROLLED THE DIVISION OF GOODS INCLUDING HEATING FUEL IN THE WINTER AND COULD WELL TRADE THESE GOODS FOR VOTES OBSERVERS WOULD BE ESSENTIAL TO ENSURE THAT THE PEOPLE WERE PROTECTED AGAINST SUCH ABUSES AND WERE ACTUALLY VOTING WITH A FREE CHOICE SECRETARY CHRISTOPHER THEN NOTED THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO ASSIST IN HELPING DEAL WITH THE QUESTION OF OBSERVERS UNCLASSIFIED I Page 3 Page 3 UNCLASSIFIED 6 SECRETARY CHRISTOPHER THEN LAID SPECIAL STRESS ON THE IMPORTANCE OF A FREE PRESS AS A KEY ELEMENT IN A HEALTHY DEMOCRACY NOTING CONCERN IN THE U S AND IN PAGE 01 SECTO 17024 03 OF 06 2507212 ACTION NODS-OO INFO LOG-00 CCOE-OO ADS-00 FD025D 2507222 38 0 2502512 OCT 93 2FF4 FM USDEL SECRETARY IN UKRAINE TO SECSTATE WASHDC IMMEDIATE 9749 INFO AMEMBASSY MOSCOW 03 0F 05 SECTO 17024 E O 12356 TAGS OVIP CHRISTOPHER WARREN PREL RU - SUBJECT SECRETARY MEETING WITH FOREIGN MINISTER KOZYREV NATO ELECTIONS REGIONAL ISSUES THE ADMINISTRATIVE ORDER THE BANNING OF NEWSPAPERS HE WONDERED WHETHER THERE WOULD BE A PROGRESSIVE LIFTING OF THE PRESS RESTRICTIONS HE WAS ENCOURAGED ABOUT PRESIDENT STATEMENT OF OCTOBER 21 ON DEMOCRACY ONLY BEING ASSURED BY A FREE PRESS 7 KOZYREV REPLIED THAT HE AND SERGEI KOVALEV HAD RECENTLY WRITTEN A MEMORANDUM WHICH COULD WELL BECOME AN ORDER TO ALL AGENCIES THERE WOULD BE NO EFFORT TO PAGE 02 SECTO 17024 03 OF 06 2507212 RELAX PRESSURE ON TERRORIST ORGANIZATIONS BECAUSE THEY COULD NOT AFFORD BLOODSHED BUT OTHERS WOULD HAVE FULL ACCESS TO THE MEDIA AND THE ELECTIONS WOULD BE FREE AND FAIR UNCLASSIFIED Page 4 Page 4 UNCLASSIFIED 8 THE SECRETARY ASKED HOW MANY ORGANIZATIONS WOULD BE BARRED FROM PARTICIPATING BY THE TIME OF ELECTIONS BOTH KOZYREV AND MAMEDOV NOTED THAT PROBABLY SIX OR SEVEN ORGANIZATIONS STILL UNDER CRIMINAL PROSECUTION WOULD BE ELIMINATED FROM THE PROCESS BY THE BAN HOWEVER THERE WERE MORE THAN A HUNDRED ALREADY REGISTERED AND SIX OR SEVEN OF THOSE WERE ACTUALLY RUNNING COMMUNIST CANDIDATES 9 SECRETARY CHRISTOPHER ASKED WHETHER SOMETHING COULD BE SAID MORE POSITIVELY ON THE PRESS KOZYREV SAID THAT HE WOULD VOLUNTEER TO DEAL WITH THIS QUESTION AT THE PRESS CONFERENCE THAT AFTERNOON GEORGIA - 10 SECRETARY CHRISTOPHER ASKED KOZYREV FOR A REVIEW OF THE SITUATION ON GEORGIA KOZYREV SAID HE HAD JUST COME FROM A TELEPHONE CALL WITH PASTUKHOV GEORGIA NEGOTIATOR HE HAD TWO POINTS TO MAKE 1 PEOPLE HAD BEEN PULLING TOGETHER AND WERE OFFERING NOW SOME RESISTANCE TO THE ABKHAZ AND 2 PRESIDENT YELTSIN HAD AGREED TO A DECREE ORDERING THE MINISTRY OF DEFENSE TO PARTICIPATE WITH ITS FORCES AS PART OF A MULTILATERAL FORCE WHICH WOULD BE DEFENDING THE ROAD AND RAILROAD THE PORT OF POTI PAGE 03 SECTO 17024 03 OF 06 2507212 AND THE THREE CAUCASUS STATES THE FORCES WOULD PROVIDE SPINOFF VALUE IN KEEPING THE REBELS AT BAY SINCE THEY COULD ONLY REACH TBILISI OVER THE RAILROAD WHICH WOULD BE PROTECTED BY THE RUSSIAN FORCES UNCLASSIFIED Bl Page 5 Bl Page 5 UNCLASSIFIED PAGE 01 SECTO 17024 04 OF 06 2507212 ACTION INFO LOG-00 CCOE-OO FD0261 2507222 38 0 2502512 OCT 93 ZFF4 FM USDEL SECRETARY IN UKRAINE TO SECSTATE WASHDC IMMEDIATE 9750 INFO AMEMBASSY MOSCOW SECTION 04 0F 06 SECTO 17024 E O 12356 TAGS OVIP CHRISTOPHER WARREN PREL RU SUBJECT SECRETARY MEETING WITH FOREIGN MINISTQIQALHQ NATO ELECTIONS REGIONAL ISSUES SHEVARDNADZE IS NOT THE REAL ISSUE WE HAD HIM IN MOSCOW TWO WEEKS AGO AND SHOWED OUR FULL SUPPORT BY TREATING HIM AS A HEAD OF STATE IN THE MEETINGS ON OCTOBER 8 WITH THE OTHER TWO HEADS OF STATES WE HAVE NO DOUBT THAT HE IS OUR PARTNER IN THIS EFFORT AND WE HAVE REFERRED TO HIM AS THE LEGAL AUTHORITY IN TBILISI W4 04 0F 05 2 7212 UNCLASSIFIED Page 6 B1 B1 Page 6 UNCLASSIFIED PAGE 03 SECTO 17024 04 OF 06 2507212 NOT TOUCH THE WEAPONS THEMSELVES ON SAFETY GROUNDS THE WEAPONS HAD ALREADY BEEN THIRTY PERCENT EXPIRED AND NO ONE REALLY QUITE KNEW WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN 17 KOZYREV DISCUSSING THE MISSILES SAID THAT THE UKRAINIANS WERE MAKING A DISTINCTION IN THEIR MINDS BETWEEN THE SOLID FUEL AND THE LIQUID PROPELLENT GIVEN THE DANGERS OF THE FAILURE TO MAINTAIN THE LIQUID-FUELED MISSILES KOZYREV ASSERTED THAT THE SOLID-FUEL MISSILES ALSO REQUIRED SERVICE AND COULD BECOME UNSTABLE AMBASSADOR TALBOTT SAID THAT WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS ACHIEVE CERTAIN SPECIFIC STEPS TO IMMOBILIZE OR DISMANTLE THE IN A STATED PAGE 01 SECTO 17024 05 OF 06 2507222 ACTION INFO CCOE-00 ADS-00 UNCLASSIFIED Bl Page 7 Bl Page 7 UNCLASSIFIED - Page 8 FD0267 2507222 38 0 2502512 OCT 93 ZFF4 FM USDEL SECRETARY IN UKRAINE T0 SECSTATE WASHDC IMMEDIATE 9751 INTO MOSCOW 05 0F 06 SECTO 17024 E O 12356 TAGS OVIP CHRISTOPHER WARREN PREL RU SUBJECT SECRETARY MEETING WITH FOREIGN MINISTER KOZYREV NATO ELECTIONS REGIONAL ISSUES TIME IF WE SUCCEED WE WILL WANT TO KEEP THOSE STEPS WITH RESPECT TO THE PRIVATE IN ORDER TO BRING THE UKRAINIANS ALONG KOZYREV NOTED THAT HE HAD NO REASON TO WANT TO HAVE THE QUESTIONS PUBLICIZED KOZYREV ASKED WHAT SPECIFICALLY WE HAD IN MIND AND MAMEDOV MENTIONED THAT THE EFFORT WOULD PROBABLY BE WITH ONLY FOUR OR FIVE OF THE AMBASSADOR TALBOTT NOTED THAT 5 MISSILES CONSTITUTED HALF A B1 CFE FLANK LIMITS 18 TURNING TO CFE FLANK LIMITS SECRETARY CHRISTOPHER SAID THE UNITED STATES HAD UNDERSTOOD THE RUSSIAN PROBLEM AND WOULD LIKE TO BE RESPONSIVE BUT NOT TO THE POINT OF REOPENING THE TREATY MORE DISCUSSION IS REQUIRED TO SEE IF WE CAN FIND A WAY TO RECOGNIZE LEGITIMATE CONCERNS AND SETTLE THEM WITHOUT DESTROYING THE TREATY 3 Page 8 UNCLASSIFIED UNCLASSIFIED 19 MAMEDOV SAID THAT THERE A PAGE 03 SECTO 17024 05 OF 06 2507222 20 SECRETARY CHRISTOPHER EXPRESSED WARM CONGRATULATIONS TO FOREIGN MINISTER KOZYREV ON THE HANDLING OF THE JAPAN VISIT 21 SECRETARY CHRISTOPHER ALSO BROUGHT UP THE LUBAVITCHER BOOKS QUESTION KOZYREV ASKED IF WE HAD RECEIVED THE LUBAVITCHER LETTER INDICATING A WILLINGNESS TO MOVE THE BOOKS TO ANOTHER BUILDING WHERE THEY WOULD BE AVAILABLE TO THE LUBAVITCHER COMMUNITY HE URGED US TO WITH MINISTER OF CULTURE SIDOROV AMBASSADOR PICKERING SAID THAT WE PAGE 01 SECTO 17024 06 OF 06 2507222 ACTION INFO LOG-00 CCOE-00 FD026C 2507232 38 0 2502512 OCT 93 2FF4 FM USDEL SECRETARY IN UKRAINE TO SECSTATE WASHDC IMMEDIATE 9752 INFO AMEMBASSY MOSCOW 06 OF 06 SECTO 17024 UNCLASSIFIED Page 9 B1 Page 9 UNCLASSIFIED - 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