Approved for Release 2018 07 31 C06665559 - Date 200211Eb 3 NatSecAct TO ALEC NatSecAct SUBJECT EYES ONLY DETAILS OF DNOVEMBER 2002 INTERROGATIONS OF NASHIRI BODY NatSecAct FMS NatSecAct NatSecAct W0 W0 NatSecAct NatSecAct NatSecAct NOV 02 11263 NOV 02 STAFF NatSecAct CITE 11263 TO IMMEDIATE ALEC INFO INMEDIATE NatSecAct E383 CIA NatSecAct NatSecAct SUBJECT ONLY DETAILS OED NOVEMBER 2002 INTERROGATIONS OF AL-RAHIM AL-NASHIRI REF NatSecAct TEXT COMB INE COMPLETE 1 ACTION NatSecAct Approved for Release 2018 07 31 C06665559 Approved for 006665559 NatSecAct NatSecAct 2 SUMMARY INTERROGATION PHASE OF SENIOR OPERATIVE AL-RAHIM AKA SUBJECT SUBJECT UNDERWENT THREE SEPARATE DEBRIEFING NatSecAct 4 THE FIRST INTERROGATION SESSION BEGAN AT 1102 HOURS WHEN SECURITY TEAM INTERROGATORS AND TRANSLATOR ENTERED THE CELL SUBJECT WAS REMOVED FROM THE LARGE BOX BY SECURITY TEAM MEMBERS AND WAS MOVED TO THE WALLING WALL HOODED THE ROLLED SUPPORT WAS PLACED AROUND HIS NECK AND INTERROGATORS ASKED SUBJECT TO REPEAT WHAT HE HAD BEEN LEFT TO THINK OVER SINCE THE LAST TIME THEY SUBJECT HAD BEEN LEFT WITH THE DIRECTION TO THINK OF ONGOING OPERATIONS THAT HE KNEW ABOUT SUBJECT SAID HE WOULD COOPERATE IN WAY AND RELATED THAT HE HAD MET NatSechct AFTER AN ATTENTION GRAB BY INTERROGATOR SUBJECT MODIFIED HIS CLAIM SOMEWHAT NatSecAct 5- 1 1 THEIR NAMES SUBJECT REMAINED MUTE AFTER INTERROGATORS POINTED TO THE WATER TABLE AND ASKED SUBJECT IF GOING To THAT WOULD IMPROVE HIS MEMORY SUBJECT SUPPLIED THE NatSecAct Approved for Release 2018 07 31 006665559 Approved for Release 2018 07 31 006665559 NatSecAOt 1 1 USING AN ATTENTION GRAB INTERROGATORS TOLD SUBJECT THEY HAD ASKED HIM TO TELL THEM ABOUT CURRENT THINGS STATING THAT As THE KEY LINK FOR TO THE GULF REGION HE KNEW THE INFORMATION THEY WERE AFTER WHEN SUBJECT SHOOK HIS HEAD TO THE CONTRARY THE WALLING TECHNIQUE WAS APPLIED SUBJECT PROTESTED THAT HE WAS NOT LYING AND WANTED TO COOPERATE 6 ASKED WHAT OPERATIONS HE HAD BEEN PLANNING WITH KHALID SHAYKH AKA KSM FOR SAUDI ARABIA SUBJECT STATED THAT HE HAD NEVER MET THE WALLING TECHNIQUE WAS APPLIED SEVERAL TIMES ASKED WHEN HE LAST TALKED TO KSM SUBJECT RESPONDED THAT HE HAD ONLY MET KSM TWICE THE FIRST TIME WAS ON A ROAD IN AFGHANISTAN ClAAct THE MUJAHIDIN WERE FLEEING FROM KABUL TO KHOST FOLLOWING THE NatSeOAct O S -LED BOMBING THE SECOND TIME HE MET WITH KSM WAS IN KARACHI SUBJECT SAID HE DID NOT KNOW KARACHI WELL SO COULD NOT PROVIDE AN EXACT LOCATION FOR THIS MEETING W0 1 1 - NatSecAct NatSecAOt 1- - B NatSecAOt Approved for Release 2018 07 31 006665559 Approved for Release 2018 07 31 006665559 NatSecAct 9 THE SECOND INTERROGATION SESSION BEGAN AT 1313 HOURS AND PICKED UP WHERE THE FIRST SESSION LEFT OFF SUBJECT REMAINED STANDING AT THE WALLING WALL WITH THE ROLLED SUPPORT AROUND HIS NECK WHILE THE HOOD WAS SLOWLY REMOVED FROM HIS HEAD BY THE INTERROGATOR INTERROGATORS AND SUBJECT CONTINUED TO WORK THROUGH THE LIST OF INDIVIDUALS SUBJECT PROVIDED DURING THE MORNING SESSION DETAILS ON THESE PEOPLE ARE PROVIDED BELOW IN PARA 13 AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE LIST OF NAMES SUBJECT LOOKED INSOLENTLY AT ONE THE SECOND INTERROGATOR IMMEDIATELY SLAPPED THE WALLING WALL AND USED AN ATTENTION GRAB SURPRISING AND STARTLING SUBJECT SUBJECT WAS TOLD TO NEVER EVER GET THAT LOOK ON HIS FACE AGAIN TO DISPOSE OF ANY EMOTION BE COOPERATIVE AND GET BACK TO WORK ASKED WHAT ELSE HE HAD TO SAY SUBJECT WHISPERED THAT HE HAD NOTHING ELSE NatSecAct Approved for Release 2018 07 31 006665559 Approved for Release 2018 07 31 C06665559 NatSeCAct INTERROGATORS FURTHER SAID THAT SUBJECT ALREADY HAD BLOOD ON HIS HANDS AND THE ANSWER TO THESE QUESTIONS COULD JUST SAVE HIS LIFE SUBJECT ASKED WHETHER INTERROGATORS WANTED HIM TO TALK I ABOUT THIS SUBJECT NOTING THAT IT WAS OLD HE SAID THAT IN 1995 1 HE WENT TO-YEMEN INTERROGATORS CUT HIM OFF DEMANDING TO I REPEATED THAT HE KNEW NOTHING INTERROGATORS IMMEDIATELY USED THE ROLLED SUPPORT WITH AN ATTENTION GRAB TO MOVE SUBJECT OVER TO THE SMALL NOTING THAT HE HAD BEEN DOING SO WELL UP UNTIL THAT POINT SUBJECT WAS TOLD TO GET INTO THE SMALL SUBJECT COMPLIED AND WAS TOLD THAT THIS CONVERSATION WOULD CONTINUE LATER SUBJECT WAS LOCKED IN THE SMALL BOX AT 1434 HOURS AND INTERROGATION TEAM DEPARTED THE CELL 11 NatSeCAct SUBJECT WHO BY THIS TIME HAD BEEN REMOVED FROM THE SMALL BOX AND WAS SEATED HOODED ON THE FLOOR WAS STOOD UP AND MOVED TO THE WALLING WALL HOOD WAS REMOVED AND INTERROGATORS TOLD SUBJECT THAT THEY WERE NOW GOING TO DISCUSS NatSecAct 12 NatSeCAct Approved for Release 2018 07 31 006665559 Approved for Release 2018 07 31 C06665559 NatSecAct NatSecAct NatSecAct NatSecAct Approved for Release 2018 07 31 C06665559 Approved for Release 2018 07 31 C06665559 NatSecAct Approved for Release 2018 07 31 C06665559 Approved for Release 2018 07 31 C06665559 NatSecAct Approved forReIease 2018 07 31 C06665559 Approved for Release 2018 07 31 C06665559 NatSecAct Approved fo Release 2018 07 31 C06665559 Approved for Release 2018 07 31 C06665559 NatSecAct Approved for Release 2018 07 31 C06665559 Approved for Release 2018 07 31 C06665559 NatSecAct Approved for Release 2018 07 31 C06665559 Approved for Release 2018 07 31 C06665559 NatSecAct NatSecAct END OF MESSAGE Approved for Release 2018 07 31 C06665559 This document is from the holdings of The National Security Archive Suite 701 Gelman Library The George Washington University 2130 H Street NW Washington D C 20037 Phone 202 994-7000 Fax 202 994-7005 nsarchiv@gwu edu