1 3 3 Approved for Release 2018 07 31 C06665563 Ki 10 4 TO ALEC I FROM SUBJECT EYES ONLY - DETAILS 2002 INTERROGATION SESSION WITH RAHIM AL-NASHIRI PART NatSeCAct NatSecAct NatSecAct NatSeCAct NatSecAOt b 3i NatSecAct 02 mm 11293 A - va 02 STAFF NatSecAct NatSecAct 11293 NatSecAOt TO IMMEDIATE ALEC NatSecAct b 3 NatSecAct SUBJECT EYES ONLY - DETAILS OF NOVEMBER 2002 INTERROGATION SESSION WITH AL-RAHIM - PART NatSecActT 1 TEXT 1 ACTION REQUIRED NONE FYI ONLY 2 ON PHASE INTERROGATIONS OF SENIOR OPERATIVE AL-RAHIM AKA MULLAH SUBJECT UNDERWENT THREE NatSeCAct SEPARATE DEBRIEFING SESSIONS BELOW ADDRESSES THE THIRD OF THREE SESSIONS SESSIONS ONE AND TWO WILL BE ADDRESSED SEPTEL DURING THIS FINAL AFTERNOON SESSION SUBJECT PROVIDED DETAILS ON REF REQUIREMENTS TO INCLUDE DETAILS ON NatSecAOt Approved for Release 2018 07 31 C06665563 Approved for Release 2018 07 31 006665563 NatSecAct 3 INTERROGATORS TRANSLATOR AND SECURITY TEAM ENTERED NatSeCAct CELL AT 1345SREMOVED SUBJECT FROM LARGE Box AND INSTRUCTED SUBJECT To WALK OVER TO WALLING WALL SUBJECT COMPLIED A TOWEL WAS PLACED AROUND WAIST AND THE ROLLED SUPPORT WAS PLACED AROUND HIS NECK AND SUBJECT WAS ASKED TO SIT IN CHAIR ONCE SUBJECT WAS THE NatSeCAct CELL AND BEGAN THE INTERROGATION BY QUESTIONING SUBJECT ON REF REQUIREMENTS 4' NatSecAct ClAAct NatSecAct AT THIS POINT THE INTERROGATION WAS STOPPED WAS ASKED TO LEAVE THE ROOM FOR A MOMENT AND INTERROGATORS TOLD SUBJECT THAT HE WAS NOT BEING FORTHCOMING ON WHAT HE 1 SUBJECT WAS WALLED ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS SUBJECT RESPONDED THAT HE NatSeCAct THE ROOM AND QUESTIONING RESUMED 1 NatSecAct SUBJECT WAS UNABLE TO PROVIDE FURTHER INFORMATION ON THE SPECIFIC 1 mm NatSecAct 4 1 NatSecAct 1 SUBJECT WAS TOLD BY INTERROGATORS THAT THE ISSUE WOULD BE REVISITED LATER IN Approved for Release 2018 07 31 006665563 Approved for Release 2018 07 31 006665563 INTERROGATION AS IT DID NOT SEEM THAT SUBJECT WAS BEING TOTALLY FORTHCOMING ON HIS RELATIONSHIP AND CONTACTS WITH KHALLAD SUBJECT ADVISED THAT BADR AND KHALLAD WERE CLOSE ASSOCIATES AND BOTH WERE IN FREQUENT CONTACT WITH AKA KHALID SHAYKH 5 1 NatSeCAct ONCE AGAIN EWAS ASKED TO LEAVE THE NatSeCAct INTERROGATION ROOM SUBJECT WAS TOLD TO STAND AND INTERROGATORS USING ATTENTION SUBJECT THAT HE HAD BETTER COOPERATE FULLY AND ANSWER ALL QUESTIONS COMPLETELY RE-ENTERED THE INTERROGATION ROOM AND QUESTIONING RESUMED 1 NatSecAOt SUBJECT PROVIDED THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION ON REF NAMES OF YEMENI CELL MEMBERS SUBJECT HAD PREVIOUSLY ADVISED THAT MUSAB WAS A YEMENI WHO WAS INVOLVED IN THE HORMUZ OPERATION WHO HAD RETURNED TO YEMEN FROM DUBAI WHEN THIS OPERATION WAS TERMINATED AL-HADRAMI SUBJECT ADVISED THAT KHUTHAYMA WAS MARTYRED IN THE ATTACK ON THE FRENCH OIL SHIP -- ABU SUBJECT ADVISED THAT HE WAS FROM YEMEN A MEMBER OF GROUP AND LIKELY STILL IN YEMEN HE IS ABOUT 27 YEARS OLD 155 CM TALL THIN LIGHT OLIVE COMPLEXION SHORT BLACK HAIR THIN MUSTACHE AND NO DISTINGUISHING CHARACTERISTICS Approved for Release 2018 07 31 006665563 Approved for Release 2018 07 31 006665563 NatSecAct SUBJECT BELIEVED THAT THIS MAY BE IDENTIFIABLE WITH WALID WHO IS ALSO KNOWN AS OR POSSIBLY WITH AL-BADAWI SUBJECT HAD PREVIOUSLY ADVISED THAT ABU WAS MARTYRED IN THE ATTACK ON THE FRENCH OIL SHIP AL-BADAWI SUBJECT ADVISED THAT HE IS ALSO KNOWN AS JAMAL IS A MEMBER OF GROUP IS FROM YEMEN AND PARTICIPATED WITH SUBJECT AND OTHERS IN THE USS COLE OPERATION HAVING PURCHASED THE BOAT JAMAL WAS CHOSEN TO PURCHASE THE BOAT AS HE WAS A RESIDENT OF YEMEN AT THE ONSET OF THE PLANNING FOR THE COLE JAMAL WAS CHOSEN TO BE ONE OF THE BUT WAS EVENTUALLY REPLACED SUBJECT BELIEVES THAT JAMAL IS STILL IN PRISON HAVING BEEN ARRESTED BY THE YEMENIS FOR HIS ACTIVITIES IN SUPPORT OF THE COLE ATTACK HE IS ABOUT 25 TO 26 YEARS OLD 165-170 CM TALL LIGHT COLORED SKIN BLACK EYES SHORT BLACK HAIR SHAVEN BUT MAY HAVE MUSTACHE WITH NO DISTINGUISHING FEATURES -- SUBJECT ADVISED THAT GHARIB IS A MEMBER OF HORMUZ GROUP BUT DID NOT TRAVEL TO UAE TO ASSIST IN THE OPERATION AS HE COULD NOT ACQUIRE A VISA SUBJECT IS NOT AWARE IF HE WORKED ON THE OPERATION TO TARGET THE FRENCH VESSEL IN YEMEN AND BELIEVES THAT HE IS STILL IN YEMEN SUBJECT STATED HE DOES NOT MAINTAIN CONTACT WITH GHARIB HIS LAST CONTACT WITH GHARIB WAS AT HOUSE ONE MONTH BEFORE 11 SEPTEMBER WHEN BADR AND SUBJECT WERE MOVING THE GROUP OF YEMENIS FROM AFGHANISTAN TO PAKISTAN TO YEMEN TO PARTICIPATE IN THE HORMUZ OPERATION AND OPERATION TO TARGET SHIP IN YEMEN SUBJECT DESCRIBED GHARIB AS BEING 25 TO 30 YEARS OLD LIGHT OLIVE SKIN BLACK EYES SHORT BLACK HAIR SHORT BEARD AND NO DISTINGUISHING FEATURES SUBJECT SAID HE DID NOT HAVE DIRECT COMMUNICATION WITH GHARIB BUT WOULD COMMUNICATE WITH AL-SHAHID WHO TOOK OVER LEADERSHIP OF CELL FOLLOWING DEATH NatSeCAct 6 TARGETS SUBJECT WAS QUERIED AS TO WHETHER HE WAS AWARE OR HAD HIMSELF BEEN INVOLVED IN ANY PLANS TO TARGET OTHER OIL FACILITIES IN ADDITION TO THE PLOTS HE HAD ALREADY TOLD US ABOUT TO TARGET U S OIL CARRYING VESSELS SUBJECT WAS REMINDED THAT HE PREVIOUSLY TOLD INTERROGATORS THAT BIN LADIN HAD ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS MADE KNOWN THE GROWING IMPORTANCE OF OIL AS A TARGET ONE THAT COULD BE USED TO IN ESSENCE CRIPPLE THE U S ECONOMY SUBJECT WAS ASKED TO PROVIDE DETAILS ON ANY OPERATIONS DIRECTED BY BIN LADIES NatSecAct Approved for Release 2018 07 31 006665563 Approved for Release 2018 07 31 006665563 I NatSecAct NatSecAct Approved for Release 2018 07 31 006665563 Approved for Release 2018 07 31 C06665563 NatSecAct b 3 NatSecAct END OF MESSAGE SE ET Approved for Release 2018 07 31 C06665563 This document is from the holdings of The National Security Archive Suite 701 Gelman Library The George Washington University 2130 H Street NW Washington D C 20037 Phone 202 994-7000 Fax 202 994-7005 nsarchiv@gwu edu