Approved for Release 2018 02 28 C06718444 Date TO ALEC NatSeCAct FROM SUBJECT EYES ONLY - DETAILS 2002 INTERROGATION SESSION WITH AL- RAHIM AL-NASHRI BODY NatSecAct NatStecAct NatSecAct 1 3 3 NatSecAOt NatSecAct 3 NatSecAct ' NatSecAct mg 001 NOV 02 Dmoaz NOV o b 1 rF NatSecE NatSecAct TO IMMEDIATE ALEC INFO DIRECTOR FOR NatSeOAct SUBJECT EYES ONLY - DETAILS 2002 1 SESSION WITH AL-RAHIM AL-NASHRI REF ALEC NatseCACt TEXT NatSeCAct COMBINE COMPLETE ClAAct NatSeCAct 1 ACTION REQUIRED NONE FYI 2 SUMMARY DAY SEVEN OF BASE AGGRESSIVE PHASE INTERROGATIONS OF SENIOR OPERATIVE AKA MULLAH SUBJECT SUBJECT PROVIDED AN ACCOUNT NatSecAct Approved for Release 2018 02 28 C06718444 Approved for Release 2018 02 28 006718444 NatSeOAct NatSecAct b NatSecAct 4 AT THE INTERROGATION TEAM ENTERED NatSeCAct CELL PROVIDED HIM A TOWEL TO WEAR AND PLACED HIM IN A CHAIR CIAAclzt REMINDED SUBJECT HE HAD PREVIOSLY MENTIONED TRAVELING FROM 1 TOLD SUBJECT THAT INTERROGATORS WANTED SUBJECT TO RELATE ALL THE DETAILS OF THAT TRIP AND ALL DETAILS OF HIS STAY INS SUBJECT WAS REMINDED THAT HIS ANSWERS WOULD NEED TO BE COMPLETE AND ACCURATE SUBJECT NODDED NatSecACt THAT HE UNDERSTOOD AND BEGAN To SPEAK BASE COMMENT FOR MUCH OF THE FIRST HOUR MOST OF RESPONSES CAME PIECEMEAL AND IN RESPONSE To DIRECT QUESTIONS SUBJECT APPEARED CONFUSED AT TIMES AND EATER OBSERVED THAT MANY OF ARABIC SENTENCES HAD BEEN DISJOINTED AND MAY HAVE REFLECTED MISUNDERSTANDING OF QUESTIONS AFTER A SUBSEQUENT MEETING IDENTIFIED NatSecAct THIS PROBLEM RESPONSES APPEARED MORE COHERENT NatSecAct Approved for Release 2018 02 28 C06718444 Approved for Release 2018 02 28 C08718444 NatSecAct NatSecAct NatSeCAct NatSecAct Approved for Release 2018 02 28 C06718444 Approved for Release 2018 02 28 006718444 NatSecAct NatSecAct NatSecAct ClAAct NatSecAct Approved for Release 2018 02 28 006718444 Approved for Release 2018 02 28 C06718444 NatSecAct ClAAct NatSecAct ClAAct NatSeCAct NatSeCAct Approved for Release 2018 02 28 C06718444 b gpjrexec irfgi Release 2018 02 28 C08718444 16 AT RE-ENTERED NatSeCAct CELL ACCOMPANIED 1 SUBJECT WAS AND RETURNED TO HIS CHAIR TOLD SUBJECT IN AN INCREASINGLY LOUD VOICE THAT SUBJECT HAD NOT BEEN WORKING VERY HARD AND WAS PRETENDING TO BE SLEEPY SUBJECT HAD HAD PLENTY OF SLEEP AND THAT HE HAD BETTER PAY ATTENTION BECAUSE HIS ANSWERS HAD BEEN COMPLETELY INADEQUATE INCOMPLETE AND THAT INTERROGATORS WERE BECOMING ANGRY AFTER HAVING To ASK TEN QUESTIONS TO GET ONE ANSWER IF SUBJECT WAS SMART HE WAS TOLD HE HAD BETTER PROVIDE FULL ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS AND THINK ABOUT WHAT HE WAS BEING ASKED AND WHAT HE WAS SAYING BECAUSE IT WOULD BE NO PROBLEM FOR INTERROGATORS TO GET HIS FULL ATTENTION THE HARD WAY NatSecAct 13g NatSecAct NatSeCAct NatSecAct NatSecAct Approved for Release 2018 02 28 C06718444 Approved for Release 2018 02 28 C06718444 NatSecAct NatSecAct NatSecAct ClAAct NatSeCAct Approved for Release 2018 02 28 C06718444 Approved for Release 2018 02 28 C06718444 NatSecAct ClAAct NatSeCAct 24 SUBJECT WAS TOLD HE HAD BEGUN TO ANSWER QUESTIONS IN A USEFUL WAY AND THAT HE SHOULD CONTINUE IN THIS MANNER AND THINGS WOULD NOT GET SUBJECT HE WOULD RECEIVE A AND A WOULD RECEIVE A PAIR OF PANTS AND THAT THE CHAIN CONNECTING HIS LEG SHACKLES TO HIS HANDCUFFS WOULD BE REMOVED THAT YOU TRY ANYTHING AGGRESSIVE BECAUSE WE HAVE TAKEN AWAY THIS CHAIN THOSE MEN POINTING TO THE SECURITY TEAM WILL KILL SUBJECT WAS TOLD THAT WHEN HE NEXT SAW THEY WOULD HAVE MORE QUESTIONS ABOUT TOP LEADERS AND MORE TO EXPLAIN AND THAT HIS EXPLANATIONS WOULD HAVE TO MAKE SENSE SUBJECT NODDED APPEARING TO RELAX - AND THEN AS INTERROGATORS WERE BEGINNING TO LEAVE THE CELL ASKED IF HE COULD HAVE HIS NAILS CLEANED OR DO IT HIMSELF BECAUSE THEY WERE DIRTY WHICH THEY ASKED SUBJECT TO REPEAT HIS STATEMENT TO MAKE SURE HE HAD BEEN UNDERSTOOD AND THEN SQUATTED DOWN AT EYE LEVEL WITH SUBJECT WHO REMAINED SEATEDHOTEL WE ARE NOT IN THE BUSINESS OF KISSING YOUR ASS WE ARE NOT IN THE BUSINESS OF GROOMING AND SECURITY TEAM SURROUNDED SUBJECT AND FOR ABOUT FIVE MINUTES WITH AN ELECTRIC RAZOR SHAVED THE HEAD AND BEARD WHILE SUBJECT CRIED AND GRIMACED THEATRICALLY SUBJECT WAS LED BACK INTO HIS LARGE BOX AT NatSecAct NatSeCAct END OF MESSAGE Approved for Release 2018 02 28 006718444 This document is from the holdings of The National Security Archive Suite 701 Gelman Library The George Washington University 2130 H Street NW Washington D C 20037 Phone 202 994-7000 Fax 202 994-7005 nsarchiv@gwu edu