UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF STATE UNCLASSIFIED RELEASED IN PART II CLASSIFICATION SECRET REASON 25X6 DECLASSIFY AFTER 27 OCT 2018 ID 01 OCT 2008 200702086 m wa n m mxw-I m czlxI-n w DxI n PAGE 31 or 92 AIT TA 95937 as or as 2311221 2289 530G754 -- 23I13Iaz INFO sun-GI 50-91 SS-EI IGGI A3 JAN ACTION ss-aa INFO LOG-BE ADS-HO IBHB 113752 2311242 125 33 2819912 OCT 88 FH AIT To an IIAGIIGG PRIORITY CC c 3 def TAIPEI 95537 muggy IE ENDIS- PASS STATE FOR AND 12355 DECL OAOR TAGS HNNP Tu THGI SUBJECT VISIT T0 SACILITIES REF TAIPEI 6629 1 SECRET ENTIRE TENT 2 AIT TEAH CARRIED OUT FIRST VISIT TO CHUNG SHAH INSTITUTE OF SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY ICSISTI ON OCT 17 AS SPECIFIED REFTEL TEAH HAS ESCORTED TO CSIST HAIN ADMINISTRATION BUILDING DY NR ANTHONY NU OF THE CSIST PLANNING STAFF HR NU HAD SPENT 12 YEARS IN HASHINGTON IN THO SEPARATE STRETCHES FIRST STUDYING NUCLEAR PNTSICS AND AS SCIENCE ATTACHE HITH THE DOG EHBASSY AND CCNAAIN TEAH HAS NET 87 VICE ADH LIU HECHNICAL BACKGROUND IN ELECTRONICS BOSS ADHIRAL JACKSON CHUNG ELECTRONICS ENGINEERING OREGON DIVISION HEAD IAIR COLONEL LU IPROHOUNCEO NITH UHLAUTED U LU HAS A BS IN INDUSTRIAL ENGINEERING FRON U OF PITTSBURGH AND A HARVARD HE HAS RECENTLY PROHOTED FROH HEAD OF CONSTRUCTION AND ADN LIU INFORHED NIH IN THE PRESENCE THAT HE UOULD BE PROHOTED TO THE RANK OF GENERAL AFTER THE FIRST OF THE VEAR LU IS IN CHARGE OF ALL SECURITY OPERATIONSII AON HSIA ARRIVED SHORTLY IN SUHHER HHAHI UNIFORH ALERT copy Department of State SO NANY QUESTIONS DURING THE TOUR THE TEAH HAD SECRET 3 3- 0 INBDMING PAGE D1 AIT TA D5937 DD OF D3 2811222 228D SSODTEA ON HSU HAS BEEN INVITED TO THE 8 5 NEXT BOTH HE AND HIS DEPUTY DR YANG SHENG- JEHN HERE EDUCATED AT STANFORD G FINALLY AN HOUR BEHIND SCHEDULE AT 1539 THE TEAN RETURNED TO THE HAIN ADHINISTRATIDN BUILDING TO NRAP-UP THE DAY AS HAD BEEN AGREED EARLIER ON TNO TOPICS II THE SEPARATION BETNEEN INER AND OSIST AND 21 EXPORT-RELATED QUESTIONS BY ASKING ALREADY KEPT ADH NSIA BEYOND HIS SCHEDULED DEPARTURE TIHE so nun SUGGESTED we START DIRECTLY ung THE FIRST TOPIC AS IT TURNED OUT ADH HSIA STAYED ran THE ENTIRE DISCUSSION HHICH LASTEO UNTIL HELL AFTER 1725 7 BOTH HSIA AND LIU EHPHASIZED THAT THEY HAD ALREADY NADE THE DECISION TO SEPARATE CSIST AND INER AND HERE CARRYING THAT DECISION OUT LIU POINTED OUT THAT THE ONLY REASON CSIST AND INER HAD BEEN TOGETHER THE BEGINNING HAS THAT TAIWAN ATOMIC ENERGY COUNCIL ITAECI CHAIRHAH YEN HAD STARTED THEN BOTH 28 YEARS AGO AS OF OCT 1 1533 THEY NO LONGER HAVE ANY CONNECTION EXCEPT FOR WHAT LIU DESCRIBED AS SUPPORT FOR UHIGH HE GAVE AS EXANPLES BUS TRANSPORTATION DINING ROON AND THE TELEPHONE IN THE PAST CSIST HAD CARRIED OUT PROCUREMENT FOR ON OCT 1 THAT STOPPED AND PROCUREHENT FOR IS NON SOLELY RESPONSIBILITY ON PHYSICAL PROXIHITT HSIA AND LIU SAID THAT INER HAS TO BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC LINE A UNIVERSITY UHICH CSIST COULD NOT DO SO THEY HERE IN THE PROCESS OF ERECTING A FENCE AND OEVISING NEH SECURITY INER HILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR ITS DUN SECURITY LIU SAID THAT IN PLACES NHERE CSIST AND INER BUILDINGS ARE INTERSPERSEO THE THO ORGANIZATIONS PLAN TD TRADE BUILDINGS IN REGARD TO THE JOINT COMPUTER CENTER LIU POINTED OUT THAT THEIR CENTER INALS AT ENER TAIPONER 5 4 V3 NOT TO BE REPRODUCEO WITHOUT THE AUTHORIZATION OF THE EXECUTIVE SECRETARY B1 UNCLASSIFIED I 3 5-0 WRIT INCUMING - Department of State PAGE 92 OF 52 AIT TA 85587 DB OF O3 2811221 2288 5509754 PAGE 81 AIT TA 35587 DB OF 63 2811222 2283 3509764 AND SEUERAL INCLUDING TSING HUA NE SHOULD BE ABLE TO FACILITATE THE REHAINOER UNIVERSITY AND TAINAN UNIVERSITY BUT INER SHOULD THIS HSIA AND LIU SEEMED VERY SATISFIED NITH THE GET ITS OHN COMPUTER NHICH NAS OF COURSE UP TO THE EFFORTS THIS ASSESSHENT HAS LATER CONFIRMED TAEC BY NU DEAN 8 SHIPLEY TOLD HSIA THAT THE TEAM HAS ENCOURAGED BY THE CONTENT AND TONE OF THE VISIT AND BY THE ACTIONS AND PLANS TONARO SEPARATION HE NISHED HSIA TO UNDERSTAND THE NEED FOR CLARITY HERE IT IS IN BOTH OUR INTERESTS FOR THE HUTUALLY BENE- FICIAL TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE AND COOPERATION TO CONTINUE AND IHPROUE HAS NONPROLIFERATION- RELATED LAWS AND PROCEDURES THAT CAN ADUERSELY AFFECT OUR ABILITY TO DO THAT OTHERNISE PRESIDENT LEE HAS MADE A COHHITHENT AGAINST ACOUIRING NUCLEAR NEAPONS NE TAHE THAT AT FACE VALUE NITHOUT QUESTION AT THE SAHE TINE THOSE NHO CONTROL EXPORTS AND HURRY ABOUT HONPROLIFERATIDN HATTERS MUST BE CONVINCED THAT THIS CONTINUES TO BE THE CASE ANYTHING CSIST CAN DO TO HELP IN THIS EFFORT ROULD HE BENEFICIAL BOTH HSIA AND LIU SAID THEY UNDER- STAND CLEARLY AND HDULD UELCOHE ANY FURTHER SUGGESTIONS NE NIGHT HAVE TEAM CLEARLY STATED U S UNDERSTANDING NITH NHICH ADHIRAE HSIA AGREED THERE IS CURRENTLY AND IN THE FUTURE NO NUCLEAR OR NUCLEAR RELATED RESEARCH AND DEVELOPHENT AT CSIST AND THERE IS CURRENTLY AND IN THE FUTURE NO CLASSIFIED MILITARY RED AT INER mf cxI-n 9 SHIPLEY THEN TURNED THE DISCUSSION TD EXPORT HATTERS SEVERAL TIRES DURING THE BRIEFINGS CSIST HAD RAISED VARIOUS convousurs AND TECHNOLOGIES THAT HAD BEEN ACOUIRE FROH THE 0 3 THE TEAM RAD ASKED FOR SOME INDICATION DF THEIR NATURE WHICH was PROVIDED AT THIS TIHE IN THE FORM OF A 13-ITEM TABLE PLUS SPECS ON ECG SPARK GAPS THAT HAD BEEN nzouEsTED EARLIER 19 MENZEL NOTED THAT EXPORT REQUESTS ARE SUSCEPTIBLE TO ONE MAJOR PROBLEM THE END-USE STATEHENTS ARE OFTEN INSUFFICIENT TO ALLON A VALID JUDGEHENT TO BE MADE IN CASE THE TENDENCY IS TO DELAY OEFER OR DENY THE EXPORT THE INSUFFICIENCY HAY OCCUR BECAUSE OF FOUR VENDOR PREPARATION NHICH IN TURN HAY STEN FROH LACK OF INFORHATIOR FROH CSIST SECURITY CONCERNS FDR EXAMPLE HENIEL SUGGESTED A THO-FOLD HEHEDY LI PROVIDE BETTER END-USE STATEMENTS FOR THE VENDOR TO USE AND 2 USE A PERHAPS IN TO APPROPRIATE U S CONTACTS TO PROVIDE SUPPLENENTARY INFORMATION ON THE EXPORT REQUEST AND ITS PURPOSE INCLUDING CLASSIFIED INFORHATION Ca 11 BOTH HSIA AND LIU HERE HIGHLY PLEASED AT THIS POSSIBILITY LIU STATED THAT THERE IS NO PROBLEM WITH 89 8 THEIR INPORT REQUESTS PARTICULARLY IN THE HILITARY AREA LIU NOTED THAT OFTEN CSIST HAS NO 2 3 IDEA THAT A REQUESTED EXPORT HOULD BE DIFFICULT IN SOME HAY FOR THE U S NOR DO THEY UNDERSTAND NHY SDHE ARE DENIED SOME NOT SHIPLEY REPLIED THAT ANY EXPORT APPLICANT OUGHT TO HAVE THE RIGHT TO NNON THE REASONS BEHIND ANY PARTICULAR EXPORT DECISION FINDING THAT OUT COULD BE DONE THROUGH THE PARALLEL CHANNEL OUTLINED BY HENZEL SHIPLEY ALSO POINTED OUT THAT ALTHOUGH NE HOPED TO BE ABLE TO NAHE IMPROVEHENTS IN THE EXPORT PROCESS TD CSIST HE RANT HSIA TO GET THE IMPRESSION THAT ALL PROBLEHS NOULD NON BE SOLUED THERE ROULD ALWAYS BE SOME ITEHS THAT THE U S COULD NEVER EXPORT TO ANYONE INCLUDING CSIST NOHETHELESS UNCLASSIFIED ALERT - 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