4 N d bjectim T0 Deciasgi catien 2008 06 06 'f 3275 v ri 239 Axe-65d30f86 2 5 Wig AMEMBASSY NED DELHI sacsrAYE'wASHDc mm AMEMBASSY ISLADADAD 7 39 9441 I 503 REVIEWED 1 -Apr-200 DECLASSIFIED E O 12356 DECL OADR TAGS PGGV MASS MNUC SS mewmmu SUBJECT MEEFING NITH PRIME - MINISTER MAY 28 i-Awwmm 3 - ENTIRE TEXT 2 ON MAY 28 ACCOMPANIED SOLARZ TO A $3 MEETING WITH PRIME MINISTER GANDHI THE MEETING uaxca LASTED EXACTLY GNE was ALSO ATTENDED BY RAJIV AMBASSAOOR GHAREKHAN THE CGNVERSATION DDS THE BEST MEETING I HAVE EVER ATDENDED WITH THE PRIME MINISTER MY ARRIVAL HERE RENE MONTHS ADD I ALSO FELT THAT GANDHI SENSED HE WAS TO A FRIEDD OF INDIA AND HE WAS THEREFORE MORE FORTHCOMING AND PERHAPS MORE HONEST DITH SDLARZ TRAN HE WOULD NORMALLY 85D 1 HAVE THDDEFDRD REPORTED AT DD THIS CONVERSATION J No Objectiun T0 Declass caticn 2008 06 06 TRE PAKISTANI 9OLITIEAL 8CENE 3 SGLARZ ASKEQ RAJIV T0 ASSESS THE INPACT RETURN ON THE PAKISTAN POLITICAL SCENE SGLARZ ASKED IF THE 0F DEMGCRACY IR PAKISTAR HAS IN INTEREST 4 RAJIV THAT WOBLO PREFER THE RETURN OF EEMOCRACY T0 PAKISTAN BUT FOR QBVIGUS REASONS INQIA HILL NOT GET IN THE IRTERNAL PAK SCENE RAJIV SAID THAT THE PEOPLE OF ARE POSITIVE TGWARBS THE PEOPLE OF INDIA ANS THIS FEELIMG 5N THE WHOLE IS RECIPRDCATEB BY THE PE69LE OF THE RETURS 0F T0 PAKISTAN WOULD FACILITATE THE RELATIBNSHIP THE MINISTER SAYINQ THAT HAVE THEIR OWN NEEDS WHICH STIFLE THIS RELATIONSHIF S RAJIV SAID THAT SINCE HIS TAKING ON THE PREMIEREHIP HE HAD SEVEN MEETINGS HITH 21A AT THESE MEETINGS RAJIV SAID THE THO HAD DECIDED TO WORK TOGETHER RELATIGNS BETWEEN THEIR THO CGUNTRIES LAST DECEMBER THEY DREH UP A SIX-STEP PROGRAM BUT THE PRIME MINISTER FEELS THAT THIS PROGRAM TO MAKE PROGRESS TOHARD THAT HAS SLOHED noww EY THE PAKISTANIS WHEN RAJIV RECENTLY SAN THE PRIME MIMISTER OF PRKISTAN AND ASKED HIM AEOUT THE STATUS OF THAT SIX-STEP PRIME MIEISTER JUNEJG AGREES THAT THE FROGRAM HA9 RUN INTS AT THAT MEETING BITE HIS HA5 EENTIGNED T68 WISE T6 GET THE BACK T9 IT T8 BE LAST LET US SQ FAR THE HAVE T6 RAJIV THAT TRE R g QESTATORSNIP T9 IS A b RQE 2% i ALSG QABSE 21% w THEE TEQT TBE 5 5 F68 9 THE 21R AEGUT 55 T9 Tag QETMEER TEE g E g T82 PAKISTAQ 59R Nu ObJupIiuI'I Tq Doddbsifimhun a - - No Objgg on To Declassification 2008 06f06 DOMESTIC PAKISTANI INDIA MUST SOMEHOH REACT AND THIS IN TURN FURTHER DAMAGES THE RELATIONSHIP SPECIFI- CALLY EVER SINCE LAST JULY THE INDIANS HAVE CALLED THE ATTENTION OF THE PAKISTANI LEADERSHIP TO THE THO MILLION RUPEES THAT ARE BUDGETED IN THE PAKISTAN BUDGET FOR LIBERATION OF RAJIU OBSERVED THAT THIS HAS PROBABLY DONE FOR PAKISTANI DOMESTIC POLITICAL REASONS AND THE MONEY ITSELF IS A PITTANCE ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS NONETHELESS IT CAUSED THE GOI A PROBLEM IN PARLIAMENT HHERE THIS HAS CITED AS AN EXAMPLE OF DEVIOUS INTENTIONS 7 THEN CONVEYED AND YAOUB MESSAGES THAT BOTH MEN PROFESS THE HILL TO IMPROVE RELATIONS HITH INDIA BOTH MEN CHARACTERIIED THE NEED FOR AN IMPROVE- MENT OF RELATIONS AS A BY THE PAKISTANI LEADERSHIP AND THEY HANTED SOLARZ TO CONVEY THIS MESSAGE TO RAJIV BENAIIR HAD TAKEN THE SAME LINE IN THE COURSE OF HER MEETING HITH SOLARZ BUT ADDED THAT AFFINITY OF NOULD HELP HER TO UNDERSTAND BETTER THAN ZIA THE NEH LEADERSHIP IN INDIA SOLARZ ASKED HHETHER IT UOULD BE EASIER FOR BENAZIR TO IMPROVE RELATIONS HITH INDIA THAN FOR ZIA B GANDHI REPLIED THAT THE INDIAN LEADERSHIP DID NOT KNOH BENAIIR HELL ENOUGH HE THOUGHT THAT THE IMPROVE- MENT OF RELATIONS BETNEEN THE THO COUNTRIES COULD BE DONE EGUALLY HELL HITH EITHER ZIA OR BENAZIR BUT GANDHI DOUBTED THAT ZIA HILL LET BENAZIR COME TO POHER IT HOULD HAVE TO BE DEAD GANDHI OPINED THAT BENAZIR IS PULLING EVERYBODY HITH SO FAR SHE ONLY HAS THE FULL SUPPORT OF GANDHI THOUGHT THAT BENAZIR HOULD HAVE TO CHANGE HER APPROACH IF SHE CAN GAIN BROADER SUPPORT IN GANDHI THOUGHT THAT BENAZIR COULD MAKE A U S -PAK RELATIONS 9 SOLARI THEN NOTED THAT THE U S HAS NOT HITHOUT INFLUENCE IN PAKISTAN HE THOUGHT THAT THE U S HAD THREE OPTIONS ON HOH TO DEAL WITH THE PAK DOMESTIC POLITICAL PROBLEM 1 PURSUE A POLICY OF BENIGN 2 ENCOURAGE THE PAK GOVERNMENT TO AVOID CHAOS PREVENT CONFRONTATION AND AGREE TO EARLY 3 PERSUADE BENAZIR TO SLOU DOHN HER SECRETKEXDIS Nu Tu DLibidbeHLdIlUH NULL Id 1 NC Objection T9 Decfass fication 2088 06x 06 - 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