eclassi ed Case 47692 Date ELC ON 5-13-2019 Secretar y Kissinger Gen Haig 12 45 a m 10 13 73 K he has no excuse--I ex pained the strategy to him in great detail But he s afraid of Clements H Yeh ' his first comment to me was that they have spent a long meeting tonight with the military attache and there was no mention of ammunition at all except-- K Dinitz told me they had Clements Noyes and all the enemies in there and their afraid it will get to the Arabs H Ah huh 'eozsxeosn H Yeh Another thing is Jim told me that because of this odd mission it is suddenly it s critica1--take ten planes a day He 5 ready to mox there immediately I think that would be foolish K That would be a disaster Al How can he can heMverything up for week he can t now recoup it the day the diplomacy is supposed to start H He said they have no permission yet to transfer from the Azores 'And I K We both have been in this business a long time Do you believe that the Defense department couldn' get civilian charters --that Clements could get on the phone and say listen you sons -of bitches if you ever want to get Defenset Dept business again you better charter i L 1 H I find that hard to believe Pretty hard to believe because these charters live on Defense contracts KzAll right You know goddamn well they didn't try H I don' think it' 5 good for me to call Cle'ments- I ve had a piece of Jin'i' ass for about as heavy as it can be I toldhim to get on the phone and call you right now To have his man call the Israeli man and said for Gm sake don't put on one of these characters who had been handpicked our years ago to be anti-Is rael And get the goddamn facts military to military Keep the civilians out of it find out what the hell they need47692 DocId 536239 LDECLASSIFIED Authority Dooqngq PageZ Because-you know yourself that if they failed and we carry the can for it what political penal-ties the are going to pay and what foreign policy penalties We have to have our nose clean and the hell of it is this whole 1 1 operation was going to work Well he said the Stuff is there in the Azores he felt that s what was to beldone 1 - K But Al you know we've been through a lot of this stuff before H Yeh Ihnow K They always do the one thing that doesn't get to Israel You know they'll dump it in the Azores they'll take it to the North Pole they'll get it to-Greenland An antica any place When the President says get it to the Azores that was one of the options He is the Secrtary of Defense H Yeh That's right I haven't any problem with that But when you have a sittulaetiizpn like this there are people over there that'aren't communicating And if intention is sanitizing the only way to hang their ass is to sit down and go through the options with them and just ram it down their throat Right now thereare about three things that can be done One is they should order these 'charters to do this K Have you told them that H Yes K Should I get back to him 4 H Yeh The second thing Henry that they di ould do is to move these 10 1 aircraft - t K That I've already told them H I told it to them and he said he's them But I'm not even sure he knows where he's moving them or whether or not he can have the pilots in the Azores to pick them up or whether we should send the pilots right 0 in with them - K Now do --the easiest would be to get the pilots to the Azores becau e_ - by the time we get them there these pilots could be in the Azores But L- 31535 if worse comes to worse let us bring them in H 0 7 H Sure And thats the question that requires immediate discussion with the Israelis--can they have 10 pilots there or ten crews and send the planes immediately Now they won't getin there till tomorrow night at earliest- -- 47692 DocId 536239 lNWif 47692 Page '3 I Then the next thing is we do have the option of sending some American planes in there I think that's a high risk for us-- I think it's stupid And they'll have some going Right and the next thing on the charter is you order them So you ve got three things--you've got the 10 aircraft on immediate release basis 9 Yeh So then they have the regular lift into the Azores with the Is racli-j And of course the whole goddamn strategy will now be out of whack becaus 5 what will now happen is that the stuff will arrive just in time when you war 5 them to She at that moment they will have to send it for attack This is something that represents the authority to do something That they Were asked t6 do None of the Israelis have asked them up to now I for equipment The aircraft deliveries--they ll have a case or miss the first two they've got two in today Agreed to have 10 in by 3 Sunday- four moving Sunday and two everyday in between Hell I think you ought to send them all Move them right now--giving this crap about well three planes instead of two on the deliveries you ve got that kind of problem And they feel they're not going to be able to do the job I'd take some risks on that- tell them to move 5 today and 5 tomorrow He is going to do the damn minimum that he'll be told to do But you see the trouble now is Al if they had gone this week then the Israelis would be rolling now then we could stop them while- they are rolling As it is now they didn't achieve what they wanted therefore they will hoard the stuff we are getting in drive outthe 1 - negotiations and then strike So that now the diplomacy will fail and -- you see what i mean -- and we'll have yielded Oh sure that can happen Okay 11 get him right away I tell you he's ready to do it and I told him if he doesn't do it goddamn we'll make some changes over there tonight if we have to Good Thank you I think that announcement will --went well tonight Don't you KS Yeh He is good And I think he is a right choice I'm here if youneed any told him the President is out after him Thank you 35 DocId 536239 This document is from the holdings of The National Security Archive Suite 701 Gelman Library The George Washington University 2130 H Street NW Washington D C 20037 Phone 202 994-7000 Fax 202 994-7005 nsarchiv@gwu edu