and eclassitied Case 47892 Date TELCON 5-13-2019 3 Henry Kissinger Len Garment 10 13 73 12 55 p m K Len - G Yeh say I just wanted to say that the people in the community have identified your colleague over at Defense as a real roadblock and I don' know what- they are liable to do a lot of screaming about him very soon 3 K Well that is true he was a roadblock G You say was K No I've the fear of God in him G I don't see why they--I mean whatever they want to do they do it's up to them 5 K That's right G I think what they are planning to do they are going to go after George Bush and various other people Tower Connally what have you 1 K That s their problem but one thing I resent beyond descriptionthat they' re coming after me G I thought they were not K There isn't a day that goes by without my receiving a threatening phone call from Jackson I i G Well they can't control him K About the mismanagement of crisis how's he going taprove that this was a strategic disaster I G But he is--has his own testifying and they do not him He dominates them more But there has been no comment from the community --as a matter of factth ey called me to say you had received some wires and so forth that would be matters of which they have no control Kg Because we have done everything that is humanly possible I think there is a of real weakness on our part at this point and particularly the President I mean in the total Watergate setting 3 --failure to act in a decisive effective way in supplying what they need -- um 47692 DocId 536239 Diem mm Authority Page 0349 47692 Well you can be sure that I am aware of that--tha_t we run into massive sabotage which has now been broken That's important And I'm talking about this really from the standpoint - of the kind of problems that Fred Buzhardt and myself have run into and it's a matter in which he and I share We have now have- this Administration is a disaster I had a strategy which would have wound up with a ceas fire by Monday or Tuesday --if the Defense Dept Arabists would have allowed me to doit Now they sabotaged it now they have to pour in high-profile stuff rgto Israel now we are going to wind up with the Arabs made 02516 OSD Yeh well it is criminal Beyond being incompetent and traditional obstructionism is so harmful to everything with all the problems we have But if we are forced to that at least that action should be taken very and decisively or it will screw up everything else I You lmow what is needed What is needed is certainly not pressure on me I know where it has to be directed But they understand where the problem is Also the President occasionally needs a little praise l-Im huh One thing will do it if we can get F-4's flying in there We've got 14 E-4 s As of when As of now I i i Okay I'll speak around the of various people - 3 Don't disclose that-figure 1 understand I - H5 DocId 536239 Authority at - This document is from the holdings of The National Security Archive Suite 701 Gelman Library The George Washington University 2130 H Street NW Washington D C 20037 Phone 202 994-7000 Fax 202 994-7005 nsarchiv@gwu edu