1 'ELCON Arnbassa dor Dobty nin Secreta r yKissinger July 121 1974 10 09 am D Hello D Hello Henry I am really glad to hear your voice K I am so bUSy doing your Vlork in the European Securlty Conference and elsewhere that we1re not in contact anymore D Well for a ch2mge r th1n 1t it is uaeful Really To do somethingoo well Henry have to thnnk yOufQr the opportunity to 111eet on Monday because I Jo for a rather long vaaatlo n on Tuesday K Ok can we have lunch on Monday D Yes that is very good Yes and if you Gantt mind to look through on those agreem ents which have an understanding on what we are 9'o1n to do from an olVEUl1zat1onal point of view When we will becn it andoo K Absolutely And also I want to tell you wha t we have done on the European Security Conference because I think we have got it in a very positive direction now it you cooperate a litUe bit on Basket m D Well do you have any concrete suggestions This is important K I think we have broken the back on the Summit idea D Already K I think we al'G well on the way But donft go around saying- tbis D No nOt no K NQ you won1t but sbmetlmas you ' people in the lower regions are not as subtle as you are D On this only Gromyko and myself are loold ng othe l1se he vrlll keep this close to his heart It is a project he likes very mucin So HGWy thenooo K And I also want t J talk to you about SALT Not that there is a 'Wild urgency but I really think before everybody goes crazy -2- D Henry Brezhnev asked me ifrou could just a little bit more nbeX'ate these ideas of yOurs Because he himself ia UoJnq for a vacation Ha will want to 9'0 for three d in Poland in a few days But then he will spend all h s time ooo K What did you dQ to my Egyptian friends D What did we dQ We Just cve a chance to explore alldepths of their tallts til Cotober I $Owe hope they will explore t fully Kt Well now they are all upset a nd worried D t' On the cont1 ar'J we qlve them a full chance to make a oot11 searchint Jooo K I'v1l1 stop advising you whan you people start getting clever walll be in deep t tQUble D They decided really to give them a ohartce Kl r need you clumsy m You are going to stay here not go on any vaoation K No think I need to show $ome of my opponents in this town that I did not survlva tor five and a half years by beinlJ a pu$h var D I notice this but I think what they are going is a crazy idea and a stupid one Because no chance ofooo K AnatQyl r am bound to win Dt NO no I amsura about it That's why I am ra the r rlsed by tha stupidity of them to try it because it is tt clear Ught case andoo K No no Actually I vront to stay in town I just want to stay he re we ks to restore a litUe di clpline for about four D This is hnporlant 1 Hmv long are you qolnq to be gone D I jUsss Until the middle of Se Ptember Itt Wen Somebody told me you are gol n9 to become Foreiq n WI tnister Is that tru e f W011 D -3- you Jknow not always are your sources of information the best ones K Vell we'll have to take that wiretap off the Kremlin then D Well this is another story or you have to fire those who are mnkinq them there not good enough and gat a batter one be K W$ll Anatoyl I wouldlve1 y torn on the one hand I would like to see you in a h1ljhe r position on the otherooo r g e E am not really eaqer It is t1'oublesome work In away I may say it is more difficult tha tl yours D N0 7 K Much more much more D to In one way A rather important one In a senaa when you have qet a msssaqe II K YQU ha ve f J fteen and you have a Politboro member who thinks he is an expert D So tht s makes it muvh mere difficult have only one man rn your case it is easYt you K NQ question and I would also Ibate to los a a personal friend here I don't know how it squares with Mar xl st idealogy to have personal frlendah ps at the diplomatic level D I think it is quite a1rlght I hope until next meeting here until ne summit I'll bQ here K Oh good D These are m y intentions Ok Hanry Good D And Itll see you on Monday at 1 00 Kt Ar you going away for the weelmnd D Probably yes f ' Probably vrllJ go to the big bay this is my intention 4- K Today D No tomorrow Today I will stay here K And you'll be back on Sunday D Yes K Ok wall if vmnt to qet a hold of you I can call you there D Well ok it is alright with me but I am sure you can wait untU 'MQnday K Xt will wa it Monday See you for lunch on Monday ' you very much D Yes thank K Good bye END This document is from the holdings of The National Security Archive Suite 701 Gelman Library The George Washington University 2130 H Street NW Washington D C 20037 Phone 202 994-7000 Fax 202 994-7005 nsarchiv@gwu edu