if sr - ' A GBPS'3 3 -i jcccGBP ' DECLASSIFIED E O 12958 Sec 3 6 N U qM-azg ' Bv ' E f r ' i NARA PatejMfc r FOR TYLER FROM BRUCE v - PIPER WHO WAS PRESENT DURING MEETING GAVE ERICSON'FOLLOWING RUNDOWN ON GREENWOOD-JAGAN TALK YESTERDAY AFTERNOON t ' 1 MEETING LASTED APPROXIMATELY TWO HOURS o -r 1 r M i 3 JAGAN RECITE LITANY OF COMPLAINTS AGAINST HMG RUNNING BACK TO 1953 IN GREAT DETAIL o i ' o o o o T ' AND IN PLAINTIVE TONE o' 'V PIPER SAYS JAGAN APPEARED DRAWN GREAY AND 1 1 DISPIRITED HIS PERFORMANCE WAS MORE PATHETIC THAN ANYTHING ELSE r ' V 72 JAGAN MADE REQUEST THAT NEW LABOR GOVERNMENT POSTPONE o - o o o -iVA f Wcjf PR ELECTION ' HE PLEADED THAT POLICE HAD SUPPRESSED REPORTS FROM I V SPECIAL BRANCH WHICH INDICATED PNC HAD ORGANIZED TERRORISM AND VIOLENCE Vvc i o 'o' ' - o ' v o' ''' DURING 1962 AND 1963 HAD REPORTS COME TO HIS ATTENTION BEFORE LAST S' o o o o 3u Vw CONSTITUTIONAL CONFERENCE HE WOULD NEVER HAVE AGREED TO JOIN WITH 'jr J 's' o'ooo o ooo o' BURNHAM IN ACCEPTING CONSTITUTIONAL SOLUTION BY SANDYS AND HE FELT THAT 1 o o o o o -nr JHAD SANDYS OR GOVERNOR BEEN AWARE OF NATURE THESE REPORTS HMG WOULD' ox o o o o ' o o ' ' o' ' NOT HAVE IMPOSED ANY PROCEDURE BY WHICH BURNHAM AND PNC COULD COME TO ' V ' ' ' a ' o k POWER HE ARGUED THAT HIS AGREEMENT TO ACCEPT SANDYS SOLUTION HAD BEEN % CONDITIONED ON HMG S SETTING DATE FOR INDEPENDENCE AND THAT SINCE HMG HAD NOT DONE SO SANDYS SOLUTION SHOULD BE NULLIFIED HE ALSO ASKED FOR DISMISSAL POLICE COMMISSIONER OWEN CLAIMING THAT POLICE SO BAD AND SO BIASED AGAINST INDIANS THAT IT IMPOSSIBLE FOR JAGAN GOVT TO OPERATE EFFICIENTLY HE ASKED THAT HMG SUSPEND ELECTION AND ORGANIZE % COMMONWEALTH OR UN COMMISSION TO VISIT BG TO RECOMMEND CONSTITUTIONAL ' V CHANGES' REPLACING PR ELECTORAL SYSTEM HE ALSO VOLUNTEERED TO SING A o AUSTRIAN-TYPE TREATY OF NEUTRALITY AFTER INDEPENDENCE H A D B E E N ' ACHIEVED UNDER NON PR WHICH WOULD CERTAINLY RESULT ELECTED TO ASSURE _ 3 US OF HIS GOOD INTENTIONS t IN HIS BEING 4 oV IN REPLY GREENWOOD TOLD JAGAM FLATLY THAT HMG TNTFNDFD v ta A v t u n c LIBRARY ' po o h rw v r ' GREENWOOD RESPONDED CHEDDI IT IS MUCH TOO LATE TO CHANGE NOW HE GENTLY REMINDED JAGAN THAT LABOR PARTY HAD OPPOSED MANY OTHER ACTIONS TAKEN BY TORIES BUT NOW THAT MEASURES ARE IN EFFECT CLOCK CANNOT BE TURNED BACK SIMPLY BECAUSE LABOR PARTY HAS COME TO POWER ' JAGAN THEN DEMANDED CHANGES IN PR SYSTEM BEFORE DECEMBER ELECTION OBVIOUSLY AIMED AT SMALLER PARTIES HS SAID EACH PARTY SHOULD HAVE TO OBTAIN SPECIFIED PERCENTAGE OF VOTES BEFORE BEING ALLOCATED SEATS IN LEGISLATURE AND THAT THEY SHOULD ALSO POST DEPOSIT TO BE FORFEITED IF THEY DID NOT REACH REQUIRED PERCENTAGE GREENWOOD REPLIED FURTHER CONSTITUTIONAL CHANGES SHOULD BE DISCUSSED AT CONSTITUTIONAL CONFERENCE AFTER ELECTIONS JAGAN THEN ASKED APPARENTLY IN HOPE THERE STILL SOME CHANCE THAT LABOR GOVT WOULD NOT ADHERE TO PR SYSTEM WHAT ATTITUDE OF HMG WOULD BE IF PPP OBTAINED MAJORITY OF VOTES IN MAJORITY OF CONSTITUENCIES BUT DID NOT OBTAIN OVERALL MAJORITY GREENWOOD WHO HAD NOT BEEN BRIEFED ON POSSIBILITY OF SUCH QUESTION ARISING REPLIED HMG WOULD DEAL WITH GOVT FORMED BY PARTY OR PARTIES WHICH OBTAINED MAJORITY SEATS UNDER PR SYSTEM V 4 RE POLICE GREENWOOD TOLD JAGAN THAT HMG HAD EVERY CONFIDENCE IN COMMISSIONER OWEN AND ASKED JAGAN TO CONSIDER IN LIGHT OF MANY ATTACKS ON NEGROES WHAT MIGHT HAVE HAPPENED TO INDIANS HAD MOT POLICE BEEN SO WELL-TRAINED AND DISCIPLINED GREENWOOD ALSO SAID THAT ALL EVIDENCE INDICATED COMMISSIONER HAD SENT SPECIAL BRANCH REPORTS TO MRS JAGAN ALTHOUGH HE COULD UNDERSTAND HOW IN PRESS OF OTHER-BUSINESS SHE MIGHT HAVE OVERLOOKED THEM HE DENIED J A G A N ' S CLAIM THAT EVIDENCE CONTAINED REPORTS WOULD BE SUFFICIENT TO WARRANT CHARGES AGAINST 25 OF 53 PERSONS NAMED IN THEM SAYING THAT REPORTS HAD BEEN STUDIED BY LEGAL COUNSEL WHO OF OPINION THAT THEY MIGHT ___ _ coftM 6 0 PIPER SAYS HE FEELS JAGAN REALLY THOUGHT HE COULD PERSUADE LABOR GOVT TO UPSET SANDYS PLAN AND WAS DEALT BODY BLOW BY GREENWOODS' FIRM REFUSAL TO ACCEPT HIS ARGUMENTS FOLLOWING GREENWOOD MEETING JAGAN SAW PM WILSON BUT PIPER SAYS HE UNDERSTANDS JAGAN GOT NO JOY FROM NUMBER i' 10 EITHER 7 NO HINT IN P I P E R ' S RUNDOWN OF MEETING THAT JAGAN MADE ANY ' CHARGES ABOUT US ACTIVITIES IN BG h 8 JAGAN HAS OBTAINED US VISA DEPARTS 5t45 PM TODAY FOR NEW YORK WHERE HE INTENDS VISIT UN HEADQUARTERS i 9 IN RESPONSE QUERY PIPER GAVE HIS PERSONAL OPINION THAT IF BURNHAM FORMS NEXT GOVT HE WILL EXERT HEAVY PRESSURE FOR EARLY INDEPENDENCE PIPER SAID THAT HE BELIEVES NEW TEAM WHITEHALL WILL BE o LESS WILLING THAN TORIES T O GRANT SUCH REQUEST SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY HAVE MORE HIGHLY DEVELOPED SOCIAL CONSCIENCE f HE FELT THAT LABOR GOVT WOULD FOR EXAMPLE NOT PULL OT TROOPS UNTIL IT CERTAIN ' f I 'S BEYOND ANY REASONABLE DOUBT THAT INDIANS AND NEGROES WOULD NOT THEREUPON COMMENCE TO SLAUGHTER EACH OTHER E 0 f E- T COPY LBJ LIBRARY LBJL NSF Intel File Box 5 Folder British Guiana Special File This document is from the 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