UIICLASSIE EU 0 I ' 11th 0 01' 0 I AN PAGE 01 ACTION NODS SECTO 00 181027Z -- O 000 W -029033 181033Z 10 ADS-00 LOG-00 INFO 07013 N900003-0325 0 1809952 MAY 90 ZFFR USDEL SECRETARY IN USSR TO SECSTATE WASHDC IMMEDIATE 9932 THE WHITE HOUSE WASHDC IMMEDIATE O 0 0l Xl mmmmxm x x -Zng 1 m 0 3 3 0 Peg O 0 j 00 Z FM SECTO S OO mm ZO 07013 0 NOD IS FOR S AND S S E O 12356 -- m EYES ONLY O TAGS SUBJECT MEMORANDUM MAY 17 FOR THE A III PRESIDENT III 1 I' THE NUCLEAR UIICLASSIEIEII SECTO 0 Xl W D O m00 07013 TESTING PROTOCOLS 181027Z ARE COMPLETED 00 0 g 0 O 0 0 O 0 QQ 0 0 FOR THE PRESIDENT FRON JAMES 4 BAKER SUBJECT NY MEETINGS WITH SHEVARDNADZE I WANTED TO GIVE YOU A SHORT REPORT OF WHERE WE ARE AND SOME OF NY INPRESSIONS OF WHAT'S GOING ON HERE TO BEGIN WITH WE' RE REALLY SLUGGING IT OUT ON WE' VE MADE SOME HEADWAY ON THE ARNS CONTROL ISSUES ALCMS BUT THE GAP IN SLCMS REMAINS THE GOING IS SLOW ON CFE BUT I MAY HAVE MADE A LITTLE HEADWAY WITH SHEVARDNADZF THIS EVENING LL KNOW MORE TOMORROW AFTER SEEING GORBACHEV ON CW I THINK WE' RE CLOSE TO A DEAL THAT REALLY WOULD ALLOW US TO IMPLEMENT YOUR INITIATIVE AND THAT' S NO SMALL FEAT I THINK WE ARE PROBABLY ALSO ON TRACK TO GET A STATE IENT ON NUCLEAR AND MISSILE PROLIFERATION AND 02 Bm 0 MEMORANDUM PAGE 3 OO DECL OADR OVIP BAKER JAMES MOSCOW 0 0 0 Ll '0 C 0 0 0 0 0 0 ItlLASSIE I 2 IN OTHER AREASs WE ARE MOVING AHEAD ON A LIST OF POSSIBLE BILATERAL AGREENENTS LONG- TERM GRRIN TRRNSPORTATI ONs CULTURAL EXCHANGE AGREEMENT s MARITIME INFORMATIONs STUDENT EXCHANGESs ETC INDIVIDUALLYs THEY MAY NOT BE DRAMATICs BUT THEY REVEAL SOMETHING ABOUT THE CUMULATIVELYs BROADENING AND OPENING OF THE RELATIONSHIP OUR RBILITY TO SIGN THE COMMERCIAL TRADE AGREEMENT ---- ONE THAT HAS NOW BEEN FULLY NEGOTIRTED WILL OBVIOUSLY DEPEND ON WHRT'S HAPPENING IN LITHUANIA AND THE BALTICS THE FIRST SIGN OF POSITIVE NOVENENT OCCURRED TONIGHT IN THE GORBACHEV-PRUNSKIENE MEETING THE FACT OF THE MEETING REPRESENTS A GOOD THINGs BUT WE' LL HAVE TO SEE WHAT IT ACTURLLY PRODUCED GORBACHEV AND PRUNSKIENE TOMORROW M SEEING 4ND I SHOULD H4VE A BETTER FIX ON WHETHER OR NOT WE MAY BE CLOSE TO 4 REAL DIALOGUE AND A REAL PROCESS ONE THAT HAS RELEVANCE FOR THE OTHER REPUBLICS AS WELL THE ONLY REGIONAL ISSUES VE DISCUSSED AT THIS POINT ARE AFGHRNISTRN AND CENTRAL AMERICA ON WE' RE ALSO GETTING CLOSE TO R COMMON AFGHANISTANs POSITION I THINK IF YOU AND GORBACHEV WERE TO ISSUE A JOINT STATEMENT OF PRINCIPLES FOR A POLITICAL SETTLEMENTs IT MIGHT SEND A USEFUL SIGNAL TO EVERYONEs INCLUDING ALL THE AFGHAN PARTIES HERE WE' NOT THERE YETs ME AGAINs RE AND STILL HAVE DIFFERENCES ON NRJIB'S POSITION DURING THE TRANSITION TO AN INTERIM AUTHORITYs BUT Wf AND HIS RELATIONSHIP RND -- I' -- I' 3 I' BE RBLE TO COME TO AN RGREEMENT LL HE'S GORBACHEV ON THIS ONE BECAUSE I SENSE MILLING TO CUT THIS ONE LOOSE MAY PAGE 03 SECTO 07013 WORK ON MORE 181027Z ON CENTRAL AMERICAs I TOLD SHEVARDNADZE WE'D LOOK FAVORRBLY ON THE SOVIET UNION BECONING A PART OF THE G-2V AID EFFORT IN CENTRAL AMERICR RND THE CARIBBEANs 1 ROVIDED 1 THEY MRINT4IN THEIR 4SSISTANCE TO MRS CHAMORRO AND 2 THE CUBANS STOP THEIR MATERIAL SUPPORT FOR THE INSURGENCY IN EL SALVADOR AND PROMOTE SETTLEMENT THERE A POLITICAL SHEVRRDNADZE REACTED ENTHUSIASTICALLY ---- THE IDER OF BEING INCLUDED IN A G-2V EFFORT APPERLSs IMPLYING GROWING SOVIET INVOLVENENT WITH THE INTERNATIONAL HE SAID ECONOMY UHtlLASSIFIED UNCLASSIFIED fP i 0 0 0 0 0 0 4 I ee 0 THEY' D NAINTAIN THEIR OIL SUPPLIES AND ASSISTANCE LEVELS TO NICARAGUA AND THEY'D WORK HARD TO GET THE WE' LL SEE CUBANS TB STOP NOTHING HAPPENS FROM OUR STANDPOINT UNLESS THE CUBAN ARMS SUPPLIES AND SUBVERSION STOP 5 SOME CONCLUDING IMPRESSIONS FIRST I DO THINK THE MILITARY IS PLAYING A BIGGER BUREAUCRATIC ROLE SHEVARDNADZE FELT CONPELLED TO START OFF READING HIS WHOLE ARMS CONTROL BRIEF IN FRONT OF HIS WHOLE DELEGATION AS IF TO SHOW HE COULD BE TRUSTED TO MAKE THE POINTS HE DOESN' T SEEM WILLING TO MAKE -- MANY DECISIONS OR SHOW MUCH INITIATIVE I STILL BELIEVE THEY' LL COME AROUND IN THE END BECAUSE GORBACHEV WANTS A SUCCESSFUL SUMMIT BUT THEY ARE TO GRANT THE MILITARY EVERY CHANCE TO AND TO SHOW THEM WHAT COULD WORK AND CLEARLY GOING FEEL INCLUDED WOULDN'T WORK WITH US SECOND I FEEL SHEVARDNADZE IS DISTRACTED AND A LITTLE OVERWHELNED BY EVERYTHING THE ECONOMIC PROBLEMS THE PUBLIC THE SENSE OF LOSING CONTROL THE FEAR OF MISTRUST ISSUE AND CONCERNS ABOUT GERMANY ALL THE NATIONALITY AGAIN YOU HAVE TO ASK ARE WEIGHING VERY HEAVILY PROBLEMS HOW EASY IS WITH THESE KINDS OF MONUMENTAL IT TO THINK ABOUT ALCMS AND DO THEY REALLY BELIEVE THIRD TO FILL THE IDEOLOGICAL THEY CAN MANAGE VACUUM I WONDER WHETHER THEY MIGHT NOT BE TURNING WHAT PAGE 0'l SECTO 07013 181027Z TRADITIONAL RUSSIAN VALUES INCLUDING RUSSIAN RELIGIOUS ORTHODOXY SHEVARDNADZE TOOK ME TO THE 'ZAGORST MONASTERY TODAY THE HISTORICAL SEAT OF RUSSIAN OTHODOXY HE LISTENED AS THE ARCHBISHOP TALKED OF THE NEED TO HAVE PEOPLE BELIEVE IN SOMETHING THE IMPORTANCE OF THE CHILDREN TURNING TO RELIGION AND THE EXISTENCE OF AS HE PUT IT AT LEAST 70 MILLION BELIEVERS IN THE SOVIET UNION SHEVARDNADZE DID LITTLE TO QUESTION THE ARCHBISHOP AND SEEMED TO ACCEPT MUCH OF WHAT HE HEARD HE ALSO KNEW THIS VISIT WOULD RECEIVE A LOT OF COVERAGE WITHIN THE SOVIET UNION I DON' T WANT TO MAKE TOO MUCH OF THIS BUT YOU HAVE A LEADERSHIP THAT NEEDS TO BECOME MORE CREDIBLE AND LEGITIMATE -- AND WE MAY BE SEEING A MOVE TO IDENTIFY WITH TRADITIONAL RUSSIAN VALUES TO UNCLASSIFIED R SSIHED 0 0 ' 0 F0 00 BAK U 1 LASBIFIEtj F0 ' 0 0 0 F0 0 0 ' 0 0 0 F0 ' 0 This document is from the holdings of The National Security Archive Suite 701 Gelman Library The George Washington University 2130 H Street NW Washington D C 20037 Phone 202 994-7000 Fax 202 994-7005 nsarchiv@gwu edu