US Department of State Case No Date 05 09 2019 Current Class SEQ-REY 12 31 2044 Page 1 Current Handling NODIS Document Number 1994STATE179951 Channel n a - Case Number 200302142 PAGE 01 STATE 179951 07013OZ ORIGIN INFO ADS-00 DRAFTED BY APPROVED BY JCOLINS JWIT DBROWN LNAFFER - 0701312 38 0700322 JUL 94 ZFF6 FM SECSTATE WASHDC TO AMEMBASSY MOSCOW IMMEDIATE USDEL SECRETARY IMMEDIATE INFO AMEMBASSY SEOUL PRIORITY AMEMBASSY TOKYO AMEMEASSY BEIJING AMEMBASSY VIENNA DUBLIN USMISSION GENEVA 179951 TOSEC 140071 ANODIS GENEVA FOR DUB IN FOR AMBASSADOR LANEY 3 0 12356 DECL OADR TAGS PREL KN RS PAGE 02- STATE 179951 0701302 SUBJECT A s GALLUCCI BRIEFS RUSSIANS ON DPRK TALKS - ENTIRE 2 ON JULY 6 GALUCCI BRIEFED CHARGE CHKHIKVISHVILI ON THE U S APPROACH TO THE THIRD-ROUND OF Current Class I Page 1 AUTHORITY Marvin Russell Senior Reviewer UNCLASSIFIED U S Departr ent of State Case No Doc No 017784886 Date 05 09f2019 US Department of State Case No M-2014-07825 Doc No 017784886 Date 05 09 2019 Current Class THREUTT Page 2 Current Handling NODIS Document Number Channel n a Case Number 200302142 TALKS WITH NORH KOREA COUNSELORS CHURILIN AND RAKHMANIN ACCOMPANIED JOINING GALLUCCI WERE DIRECTOR BROWN DEPUTY DIRECTOR SAMORE AND NAVRATIL NOTETAKER THE DISCUSSION LASTED APPROXMATEL THIRTY MINUTES 3 GALLUCCI BRIEFLY REVIEWED THE DEVELOPMENTS WHICH LED TO THE CONVENING OF A THIRD ROUND OF ASSISTANT SECRETARY LEVEL TALKS BEFORE OUTLINING THE U S APPROACH IN GENEVA RESTATE THE NEED FOR THE DPRK TO ACCEPT ITS NPT AND IAEA SAEGUARDS OBLIGATIONS INCLUDING SPECIAL INSPECTIONS -- PRESS FOR NORTH KOREA TO IMPLEMENT THE DENUCLEARIZATION DECLARATION EMPHASIZE THAT THERE ARE NEAR-TERM CONCERNS ABOU THE SPENT FUEL CURRENTLY IN COOING PONDS WHICH CONTAINS 20 TO 30 KILOGRAMS OF PLUTONIUM NOTE THAT IF NORTH KOREA IS SERIOUS ABOUT ABANDONING GRAPHITE REACTORS IN FAVOR OF LIGHT WATER REACTORs AND ABOUT NOT REPROCESS NG THE SPENT FUEL THERE IS NO TIME LIKE THE PRESENT TO REMOVE THE FUEL TO ANOTHER COUNTRY IN THIS CONNECTION GALUCCI NOTED THA IF THERE IS A PAGE 03 STATE 179951 0701302 POSITIVE NORTH KOREAN RESPONSE WE WILL APPROACH RUSSIA AND OTHER COUNTRIES TO DISCUSS FURTHER HOW WE CAN PROCEED 4 ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE LEDGER GA LUCCI CONTINUED WE WILL NOTE TO THE NORTH KOREANS OUR POSITIVE GOA S -- WE ARE SERIOUS ABOUT IMPROVING OUR BILATERAL PO LITICAL RELATIONS IN A AND PREPARED TO OFFER NEGATIVE SECURITY ASSURANCES -- PROVIDE DETAILS ABOUT OUR WILLINGNESS TO PROMOTE NOT OR DPRK ACQUISITION OF A LIGHT WATER REACTOR GALLUCCI REFERRED TO THE JUNE 22 MEETING BETWEEN SECRETARY CHRISTOPHER AND FM KOZYREV IN BRUSSELS AND NOT THAT THIS WILL BE ANOTHER AREA WE WILL WANT TO DISCUSS Current Page 2 I UNCLASSIFIED US Department of State Case NO M-2014-07825 Doc No 017784886 Date 05 09 2019 U S Departmehtof State Case No M-2014-07825 Doc No 017784886 Date 05 09 2019 Current Class SECRET - Page 3 Current Handling NODIS Document Number Channel n a Case Number 200302142 FURTHER WITH MOSCOW IF THE DPRK HAS RUSSIAN TECHNO OGT IN MIND WE SEEK TO CONTRIBUTE TO A LESSENING OF TENSIONS BETWEEN NORTH AND SOUTH KOREA IN THIS CONNE TION WE WOULD WANT TO DISCUSS THE DEPLOYMENT 0 FOR ES AND 1 WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION POLICIES 5 IN SUM GALLUCCI EXPLAINED WE WANT TO PUT IN FRONT OF THE NORTH KOREANS AN ATTRACTIVE VISION OF WHA WILL TRANSPIRE IF THEY TAKE THE NECESSARY ACTIONS IN THE NUCLEAR AREA OVERALL WE ARE PREPARED TO BE QUITE FLEXIBLE PROVIDED NORTH KOREA IS WILLING TO DEAL WITH THE SPENT FUEL UP IF THEY REPROCSS THIS FUEL IT WOU BE A VERY SERIOUS OBSTAC TO MOVING FORWARD -SEGRBT- mxmm PAGE 04 179951 0701302 6 GALLUCCI REVIEWED WHAT THE SECRETARY AND FOREIGN MINISTER HAD AGREED IN BRUSSELS REGARDING U N SAN TIONS AND STATED THAT ONE REASON WE ARE BACK AT THE NEGOTIATING TABLE IS THAT THE REA PROSPECT OF SANCTIONS LED THE DPRK TO TAKE THE STEPS NECESSARY FOR US TO RESUME BILATERAL TALKS AT THIS TIME WE WANT THE FOCUS TO BE ON THE BILATERAL EFFORT TO RESO VE THE PROBEM RATHER THAN ON THE DEVELOPMENT OF A SANCTIONS RESOLUTION IF WE HAVE TO RETURN TO THE SANCTIONS APPROACH GALLUCCI WAS CONFIDENT THA THE U S AND RUSSIA ARE IN BASIC HGREEMENT ON THE CONTENTS OF A SECURITY COUNCIL RESOLU ION 7 25X6 IEMPHASIZED THE RUSSIA WANTS THE U S -DPRK NEGOTIATIONS To SUCCEED 8 THE RUSSIANS ASKED QUESTIONS ABOU THE TIMETABLE FOR THE TALKS THE INTERNATIONA ATMOSPHERE WITH THE NORTH-SOUTH SUMMIT THE IAEA ANGLE AND THE PRESENT CONDITION OF THE FUEL RODS 9 GALLUCCI RESPONDED THAT WE ARE TERMING THIS THE FIRST - I SESSION OF THE THIRD ROUND AND THAT BECAUSE OF THE DPRK Current Class 4iaam33 Page 3 PUNCLASSIFIED U S Department of State Case No Doc No C17784886 Date 05 09 2019- State Case NO M-2014-07825 Doc No 017784886 Date 05 09 2019 Current Page 4 Current Handling NODIS Document Number 1994STAT3179951 Channel n a Case Number 200302142 PLEDGE To FREEZE ITS NUCLEAR PROGRAM WHILE THE THIRD ROUND IS UNDERWA WE WANT TO SUSTAIN IT AS LONG AS POSSIBLE HE OUTLINED SEVERAL POSSIBLE SCHEDULE CONFIGURATIONS AND PROMISED To BRIEF RUSSIAN REPRESENTATIVES IN GENEVA AFTER EVERY DAY OR TWO OF THE TAKS WSECRET PAGE 05 STATE 179951 0701302 10 REGARDING THE INTERNATIONA ATMOSPHERE GALLUCCI NOTED THAT THE SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT ELEMENT IS THE POSTURE AND LAMENTED THE LACK OF KNOW EDGE OR ITS MECHANISM ONE POSSIBILITY IS THAT THE VISIT OF FORMER PRESIDENT CARTER HAS GOTTEN KIM IL SUNG INTO TACTICAL INVOLVEMENT WITH AN EFFORT TO PUT RELA IONS WITH THE SOUTH AND WITH THE U S ON POSITIVE TRACKS BEFORE AGAIN DELEGATING MANAGEMENT OF THESE ISSUES IF IS THE CASE KIM IL SUNG WANTS To AVOID SANCTIONS AND IT IS POSSIBLE FOR THE NORTH-TO MAKE THE MOVES WE SEEK AC EPTING NPT TRANSFERRING THE FUEL ETC THE OTHER SCHOO OF THOUGHT IS THAT THE NORTH IS MERELY STA LING A NEGOTIATOR HE MUST TEST THE OPTIM-STIC ASSUMPTION GALUCCI EXPLAINED 11 GALLUCCI CHARACTERIZED OUR CONSULTATIONS WITH TH ROK AS BROWN NOTED THAT THE ROK IS CONCERNED ABOUT-THE POSSIBI ITY OF THE TALKS DERAILING PLANS FOR A NORTH-SOUTH SUMMIT WHICH CHURILIN ECHOED SAMORE POINTED OUT THE NATURAL DIVISION OF LABOR WHEREBY THE ROK FOCUSES ON IMPLEMENTATION THE DECLARATION AND THE S THE INTERNATIONA COMPONENTS E G NPT FULL SCOP SAFEGUARDS 12 GALLUCCI DESCRIBED HIS RECENT EXTENSIVE CONSULTATIONS WITH THE IAEA AND EXPRESSED SATISFACTION WITH WILLINGNESS To LISTEN To THE U st AND YT MAINTAN TH INDEPENDENCE ESSENTIAL To THE CREDIBILITY 0 THE IAE WE DO NOT EXPECT THE IAEA TO PROVIDE ANY SURPRISES SUCH AS INTRODUCING NEW INSPECTION REQUIREMENTS WITHOU NOTIFYING SECREE j m T Current iimm r Page 4 I UNCLASSIFIED US Department of State Case No M-2014-07825 Doc Date 05 09 2019 US Department of State Case No Doc No C17784886 Date 05 09 2019 Current Class Page 5 Current Handling NODIS Document Number 1994STATE179951 Channel n a Case Number 200302142 PAGE 06 STATE _l79951 0701302 US IN ADVANCE 13 THE FUEL RODS ARE PROBABLY COOL ENOUGH TO WORK WITH NOW GALLUCCI OPINED ANOTHER ISSUE IS THE RATE OF DETERIORATION OF THE IT COULD LAST ANOTHER MONTH OR ANOTHER YEAR ONE OF OUR OBJECTIVES FOR THE GENEVA TALKS IS TO SEND TECHNICAL EXPERTS TO NORTH KOREA TO HELP ADJUST THE WATER IN THE COO ING PONDS TO RETARD CLADDING DETERIORATION AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE l4 GALLUCCI DID NOT HAVE A CHANCE TO REVIEW THIS MESSAGE - 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