UNCLASSIFIED US Department of State Case No M-2014-13564 Doc No 006592986 Date 07 05 2018 RELEASE IN FULL PTQ2401 PAGE 01 STATE 230633 0518152 ORIGIN INFO LOG-00 230633 - SOURCE KODAKA 005118 DRAFTED BY POLIBGOLDBECK 12 04 00 APPROVED BY SIS-OZWYBAIRD 05181 72 38 0 0518132 DEC 00 ZFF4 FM SECSTATE WASHDC TO AMEMBASSY SEOUL IMMEDIATE AMEMBASSY TOKYO IMMEDIATE NSC WASHDC IMMEDIATE 0000 230633 Nears- sew - E O 12958 DECL AFTER KOREAN UNIFICATION TAGS OVIP ALBRIGHT MADELEINE K PREL MARR KS KN US SUBJECT SECRETARY PRESIDENT KIM ON DPRK TRIP AND IMPRESSIONS OF KIM JONG IL 1 U CLASSIFIED BY DEPUTY EXECUTIVE SECRETARY CAROL Z PEREZ FOR REASON 1 5 D SECREL PAGE 02 STATE 230633 0518152 2 U OCTOBER 25 2000 OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT SEOUL KOREA 3 U PARTICIPANTS U S THE SECRETARY AMBASSADOR TO THE REPUBLIC OF KOREA STEPHEN W BOSWORTH AMBASSADOR WENDY SHERMAN COUNSELOR OF THE DEPARTMENT MR STANLEY ROTH ASSISTANT SECRETARY FOR EAST ASIAN AND PACIFIC AFFAIRS AMBASSADOR CHARLES KARTMAN EAP MR CHARLES L PRITCHARD SPECIAL ASSISTANT TO THE A PRESIDENT AND SENIOR DIRECTOR FOR ASIAN AFFAIRS MR BRIAN GOLDBECK EMBASSY SEOUL REVIEW AUTHORITY Marvin Russell Senior Reviewer UNCLASSIFIED US Department of State Case No Doc No 006592986 Date 07 05 2018 UNCLASSIFIED U S Department of State Case No M201413564 Doe No C06592986 Date 07 05 2018 MR TONG KIM INTERPRETER ROK PRESIDENT KIM DAEJUNG FOREIGN MINISTER LEE JOUNG BINN MR KIM HACHUNG SENIOR SECRETARY FOR FOREIGN AFFAIRS AND NATIONAL SECURITY BLUE HOUSE MR PAK CHUNYOUNG PRESS SECRETARY BLUE HOUSE MR SONG MINSOON NORTH AMERICA BUREAU DIRECTOR GENERAL SeeREt PAGE 03 STATE 230633 051815Z MR LEE SOOHYUCK SECRETARY FOR FOREIGN AFFAIRS AND NATIONAL SECURITY BLUE HOUSE MS KANG KYUNG HWA DEPUTY DIRECTOR GENERAL FOR INTERNATIONAL ORGANIZATIONS INTERPRETER SUMMARY 4 jZiJ SECRETARY ALBRIGHT CALLED ON PRESIDENT KIM DAE JUNG ON OCTOBER 25 TO BRIEF HIM ON THE RESULTS OF HER OCTOBER 2325 VISIT TO PYONGYANG THE SECRETARY DESCRIBED HER IMPRESSIONS OF KIM JONG IL FINDING HIM POLITE WELL INFORMED AND INCHARGE BUT WEAK ON ECONOMICS THE SECRETARY REVIEWED THE HIGHLIGHTS OF HER DISCUSSIONS INCLUDING KIM'S HINT THAT THE DPRK MAY END PERMANENTLY ITS MISSILE LAUNCHES PRESIDENT KIM TOLD THE SECRETARY CHAIRMAN KIM IS DRIVEN BY PRAGMATISM AND IS UNLIKELY TO REVERSE COURSE ON OPENING UP A MORE PRIVATE MEETING WILL BE REPORTED SEPTEL END SUMMARY DEALING WITH CHAIRMAN KIM PRESIDENT KIM BEGAN THE DISCUSSION BY NOTING THE 5 GROWING SENSE OF ENERGY ON THE PENINSULA KIM SURMISED THE SECRETARY MIGHT HAVE FELT THE SAME KIND OF ENTHUSIASM HE HAD FELT DURING HIS JUNE VISIT TO PYONGYANG DPRK LEADER KIM JONG IL HAS A HABIT OF CREATING SURPRISES SeCRET PAGE 04 STATE 230633 051815Z PRESIDENT KIM SAID READJUSTING AND JUGGLING SCHEDULES AS THE SECRETARY HAD JUST EXPERIENCED DURING HER VISIT TO PYONGYANG BOTH SECRETARY ALBRIGHT AND PRESIDENT KIM AGREED THAT ADVANCING THE SECRETARY'S MEETING WITH CHAIRMAN KIM TO HER FIRST DAY HAD BEEN BENEFICIAL AS IT HELPED THE SECRETARY'S SUBSEQUENT MEETINGS TO FALL INTO PLACE IN ADDITION THE SHIFT ENABLED THE SECRETARY TO HAVE ADDITIONAL MEETINGS AND SOCIAL EVENTS WITH CHAIRMAN KIM WHICH TOTALED ABOUT TWELVE HOURS OVER THE TWO DAYS OF HER VISIT UNCLASSIFIED U S Department of State Case No M201413564 Doe No C06592986 Date 07 05 2018 UNCLASSIFIED US Department of State Case No Doc No C06592986 Date 07 05 2018 GETTING TO KNOW KIM JONG IL SECRETARY SAID THAT CHAIRMAN KIM APPEARED WELL-INFORMED AND COMFORTABLE ABOUT SPEAKING ON A WIDE RANGE OF SUBJECTS KIM SAID HE HAS THREE COMPUTERS IN HIS OFFICE AND USES THE INTERNET -- HE EVEN ASKED THE SECRETARY FOR THE STATE WEB ADDRESS WHILE CHAIRMAN KIM IS INQUISITIVE ASKING MANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE REGION AND RELATIONSHIPS HE DID NOT ASK ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ABOUT THE US SECRETARY ALBRIGHT SAID CHAIRMAN KIM HAD DESCRIBED PRESIDENT LIFE AS TRULY REMARKABLE GOING FROM DISSIDENT TO EXILE TO PRESIDENT A LIFE THAT WOULD MAKE A GOOD MOVIE THIS DREWA SMILE FROM PRESIDENT KIM WHO REMARKED THAT CHAIRMAN KIM IS AN AVID MOTION PICTURE ENTHUSIAST TO WHICH THE SECRETARY REPLIED THAT CHAIRMAN KIM HAD TOLD HER EVERY TEN DAYS OR 80 HE ON THE LATEST FILMS AND QUIPPED THAT HE USUALLY AGREES WITH THE OSCAR NOMINATIONS PAGE 05 STATE 230633 0518152 7 ALBRIGHT OBSERVED THAT ALL HER MEETINGS AND EVENTS WERE VERY WELL ARRANGED AND SHE HAD THE IMPRESSION THAT KIM JONG IL HIMSELF HAD GIVEN THE ARRANGEMENTS HIS PERSONAL ATTENTION KIM CHONG IL HAD PROVEN TO BE VERY POLITE A GOOD LISTENER AND INTERLOCUTOR AND ABLE TO RESPOND TO QUESTIONS QUICKLY KIM TREATED HIS SUBORDINATES WELL LISTENING CAREFULLY FOR EXAMPLE TO ADVICE OFFERED BY FIRST VICE FOREIGN MINISTER KANG SOK JU AND THEIR EXCHANGES LACKED ANY TONE OF BOSSINESS THE SECRETARY SAID KIM HAD ALSO BEEN PROTECTIVE OF HER BY MINIMIZING THE NUMBER OF TOASTS WITH SUBORDINATES AND ASKING A DANCE TROOP TO DO A CZECH DANCE IN HER HONOR THE SECRETARY SAID SHE HAD THE IMPRESSION THAT MOOD MIGHT SOMETIMES SWING BUT THAT DURING THEIR TIME TOGETHER HE WAS NEVER ANGRY SHE NOTED THAT AFTER ONE BREAK FOLLOWING A DISCUSSION KIM SEEMED TENSE BUT HE WAS NEVER RUDE PRAGMATISM AND INTERESTS DRIVE KIM JONG IL 848- THE SECRETARY ASKED PRESIDENT KIM WHETHER KIM JONG POLICIES MIGHT BE SUBJECT TO SUCH AS WELL REVERSING COURSE JUST AS QUICKLY AWAY FROM HIS APPARENT NEW POLICY OF OPENING UP PRESIDENT KIM SAID THAT TEMPERAMENT ASIDE CHAIRMAN KIM IS PRAGMATIC AND WOULD NOT CHANGE COURSE UNLESS THERE IS SOME SETBACK PRESIDENT KIM SAID HE HAD EMPHASIZED TO KIM JONG IL THAT PAGE 06 STATE 230633 0518152 UNCLASSIFIED US Department of State Case No Doc No 006592986 Date 07 05 2018 986369900 OOCI 9930 91813401uewuedea GVH 3H CIIVS WIN OIWONOOE 9NIGEIV93EJ HOIHNI OJ NI 300 3HV S3SVJEIOHS ASH3N3 0V8 A83A NI SI AWON003 SIH JIWCIV GICI WIN H3A3NIOH SI SOIWONOO3 8 WIN LVI-I L 3WV038 LI CIIVS 3HJ CINV SOIWON003 O L G3NEIFIJ NOISSROSIG 3HJ 173 H380 L00 N0 AHVJ3EIO3S 3H L A8 CI3 LSOH H3NNICI SOIWON003 N0 NV3NI 3HJ NI NV3HON EDNWIOHS 30 SVM 39VWI 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WIN NVWEIIVHO 3H OIWONOO3 CINV AJJHRO3S SW83J NI 3H L 803 SI '80 3HJ HJINI $9190 986269903 300 9390 31918 JO 'S'f'l UNCLASSIFIED US Department of State Case No M 2014j13564 Doc No 006592986 Date 07 05 2018 ASKED RUSSIAN PRESIDENT PUTIN WHAT REALLY MEANT AND KIM SAID HE LIKED THE OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT SECRETARY ALBRIGHT SAID SHE REMINDED KIM THE SWEDISH MODEL IS BASED ON AN ALREADY ECONOMY DURING THE DISCUSSION KIM ALSO NOTED THAT HIS FATHER WAS A SOCIALIST NOT A COMMUNIST PAGE 08 STATE 230633 0518152 POTATOES WERE SALVATION BUT RICE STORES EASIER THE BREADTH OF THE DISCUSSION THE SECRETARY SAID KIM HAD TALKED ABOUT POTATO FARMING SAYING HE HAD READ THAT POTATOES HAD SAVED POST-WAR GERMANY FROM FAMINE BUT KIM NOTED THE DPRK HAD YET TO LEARN PROPER STORAGE METHODS FOR POTATOES WHEREAS RICE IS MUCH EASIER TO STORE HE CRITICIZED THE RUSSIANS FOR ENCOURAGING THE DPRK TO GROW CORN A GRAIN BETTER SUITED TO FEEDING ANIMALS THAN HUMANS 12% THIS POINT THE SECRETARY SUGGESTED THAT THE DISCUSSION CONTINUE WITH A SMALLER GROUP REPORTED SEPTEL ALBRIGHT 356R It It END OF DOCUMENT gt gt UNCLASSIFIED US Department of State Case No Doc No 006592986 Date 07 05 2018 This document is from the holdings of The National Security Archive Suite 701 Gelman Library The George Washington University 2130 H Street NW Washington D C 20037 Phone 202 994-7000 Fax 202 994-7005 nsarchiv@gwu edu
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