_ S P1GC811ith ac V APPROVED D 1 'liis riocument co sts oi i l b of DEPARTMENT OF STATE 8126- 60 - - p ges Copies Series V Memorandum ol ConJPYenaHon I DAB I O1 0 l -c t r LI' ' 7 - AUgust 24 1 1960 Buel ear Sbar Jlg SUBJECT DGpa- taent ot Det'enae PARTICIPANTS Atrm1 c l neGBP6l C01 1D1as1on Leone SocntarJ' aatea or ' Dep l'tment Admiral starbll'd state Actliig $ecntarJ Mllon Ur Smith COPIES TO The Secretary Mr Merchant S P - Mr Smith S AB -Mr Farley BUR - Mr ICohler Secretary Gates said tbat the Joint C l1a1'a had sa e weeks ago sent b 1m a paper taking u ri % n line that t o shoul d change preaent u policy against nuclou r weapo lS awu-1ns with selected ulios 'l'boreupon secretary Gatos had 1natrueted bis people to propa ro a paper proposing t roversal or policy ror the purpoae ot gott1ng a clear l'ocus on the 1asue Ho mentioned the rocont v1a1t ot uonoraJ 6e u1're who had 1 nd 1catod that Oenerul do Gaulle v ould ofror tul l coopora- tion to HATO 1 t' t-he ttnitod States ou1d oupply France with POLAhI m1as1los rithout t1arheads soz e Gcnoral I eau1're 1 s tboais was that ul t lien oral de ilaiul lo we 1 tod IIUD position liherob1 be could orrer his mios1leo to to bo in a UNrc SecrotGBPU7 Gatos t i1on spola 01 tl e 1ntonao t8EUR111ng that eral Moratad had i n opp 1Uon to nuclGar snarin with the F-rencb Socl'Otary Gates said that yQnoral Jliorstad o s conversation - 1th him shook him W'ld thereafter hr had asked hia _p eople r 4 _ o o ' i - ' ooo' # 4 oo - to prepare oo _ W11J1 r r r o o W Dc -c s - p f o l ' o J t to o - __ _ - t lDR c l'U''V _ 7d 1111 J a o o o o I _ J f_ @ - -- o 1un1 J ' 'i 1r Q7 - It Ip - I o o i t o pNpaN tbe paper 1n a H1 that would eh01r DD ablU'p apl1ta w1 th tu Deputaent 8'8 to podt1cm So 414 not want to ba fe a Z 01f wi-1 h sa o See Ntarf auea reels tJ a t tile preaont paper n tlaota lltlle or no betwaen sta e am Deremae Mr JlcCcme and lb Dillon pointed aa t tiaat tbeN to lta a 1'lu cU ttvenc 1n the - - l alaguago aktoo tlaG I bare 1a a DaN tor tho J'Nddant to b To authorit7 t nmater mualau napona to aeleotocl all1ooo 'l'be State aml AEC long11ap o JS oNDOo oo--cl there 1o no need ' I sM t oa o tha '8 lb - bal3 tho PooibUJ 17 or iniio ting ha pNND t l o bJ mekSng a rs Dd1ng 'that the PNDel l 1' ad -4o aubot tia1 pnpreaa and thUa perm1 1't 112g mclu r abaring without leg1alat1cm 111- Llllloa uke4 Be0Nl i7 Oatoo U he W in 111m aotmoll 7 tMDS1'err1Dg molaar warheada to the PNDch seontar Ga tea aai d he d 14 not Jm ow-perhapa the wo-ke ancgement tor the 111aa1leo would be onousbo here wa then some d1acniu1on or Gemra1 Beaufi-e oo Be aa14 that be wOllld return 11hortl7 aner Labor DaJ at'ter havi Dg taken up tho ma ter with Ge Daral do Gau lle u- Saith pointod out tbat al1 the evidence oo had waa contr rJ Yiait o to the Geoes-al Beaufl 9 tbtorJ tut General clo Gmalle would ottv tun oooperat1on to HATO 1n return or such a am ll coas1derat1on Socret 17 oatea aa1d that Genoral Benufi-e bad told h1m that tlw French would be willlng to let tho US kltep cuatOdJ' of' the warheads Mr Dill on po1 nt ed out hia belia tbat the F-ranch 1n IQ' event would want to aep national control over aoma bal l1at1c m1aallea U we made tham ava1lable secretaey Oates po 1 nted out Ooneral Noratadoa idea or h vi Ds a rocaptu ro clause 1n a possible progrw i for Making aubmar1nea available to DATO countrlea l l'ndar thla U the auba wore no lcmger al1ocated to SACGBPUho tho us could recapture them There waa aome diacuaaion about the poaa1b1llty of o teppiilg up the POLARIS aubmar1 ne rate ao tha t 09nernl Noretados 1mt1al MRBM requ1remont could be mot 1n this way Mr McCone s id that Admirals RickoTer and Rayburn bad gotten together and 1t waa Jlro one 'a bel1ei' tlll t we could get five more subs by 196 it we wanted to- o - - -z o sm Lth pos ntecl ouu tbat Mr Bowieoo atud7 was goillg to propoae amtltlla water-borne mlaalle 1'oitce and that - - - General Bora ad -and Mr Bo1r1e wore going to meet 111th the Prea14ent oarl7 1n September secretari Gatoo aaked u he oou1d have OOPJ' ot the Bow le repo Kr Dillon said it bad no1l nt been r eceived Jir JlCCone polDtod out that abaring waapoms with tbe FNnch ba4 pro1'0UXl4 111pllcat1c ma a 1noe it ooulcl zr-alae the preaauna 1'rom the Gezmana 'th a Chineae would PNoo the lll18a1am aa would the East aenana U nuclear obar1l 3s 1a neoeuary be 1nolinea iiowuc I a rmltllateriu rAtber tb n a bll t aral ari'ansemont- 111- Dillon a aid that he had been a ruck bJ' Ge ral liOl'stad oo u-gmmnt that 1t would be bad polia7 to reward Generfll de Gaulle by Jmolear sharing vith h1m hi u cont1nuous non-ooopel 'at1on with liATO JU- Dillon went on to say that the c1rcumstancea - would he d1rfcaNnt U' General de Gaulle made a proposition to 1 b e United States l I l't uas noted that aeural 'Horatad wu urg 1 cg the us oovornmant to br 1 og presauro on th lforth Atlantic Council to to ks up tw 1iHmi matter 1 n Septembero Mr Dillon sta ted that he pre terrod tho Detense language to that of the AEC Stato Eor pa ragraph B or the committee report or August a Jr McCone ooncurred In i-egard to aubmarlne cooperation tr Dillon pointed out tbalt he did not think there was v ny issu o or substance between tho 4 gencies but ho wanted to avoid any l1u 3guage that oou1d auggeat we would start tho negotiations with the Dutch and then give the Joint Comd tteo some opportun1t ' to hold up tba nogot1at1omunt11 thay bad a turther cbDI1ce to 1ntarvone Iii was tho conaenaua that wo should establish u-ith the Dutch a t the start wbethctr or not the agreed to thG two-1ear dol clause Mr Dillon fol t that the GBP EC 'ormulation would permit the Joint Committoo to hold up the ncgotiationo until January o McCone anid he folt that the t1 0o1oar dala7 wou1d not auit the Dutch Thoy 1 ant to got ao much 1 nf'ormation aa soon as poasibl e GBPor uae 1n tho1r own poa co ul uaes progrmr a and for component mnnuf'Q otu re in Holland ltlr l oCone o t - 4' - - - _ - - rt - ' -_ _ - - i - -_ - r - - - - -11 o __ - A-- -t - - _ _ - ' -' 1 I 11r Mcccme 1'elt t bat it was wm1aa tor WI to otte thia cooperation to t ho r utch fllab' milit l'J' expemttturea ror JiilO are ve17 moh below JC '10 nq 11 nmonta was not a aenaLble uae ot theh- Nsounooo Jlr 5m1th poiDted mt that the Presi den11 bad made a oomdimlent h BA'fO al1d that - a had l1itl e ahcdce wept o caopenme or wttlah N was some 41 acooJ on aa to the Sovie c apu111ty m the ball1a 1o mifaa1le wbmar1mt tiel d 3Hftt8l J Oates Aid 1 hat the 11 dlellism be had Ud1caec1 that sov1eta will in a Nl t tvoll' ahor P llhUo ba Ya a capab1llty 'to proctuoe ten submar1 nes Kr accmie- po1nted the untque reactor technoloa in the Bau t1lua-tn e aubmar1mt ll'01ib1ng that wa have l earmd J nd1cated tba Sovieta ha va it ' he oonven t1on then atUJl'J 1ed to matt er and secretal J' Gates 11ated the arguments or-tbe Joi Chieta all or ohioh pJ flaN to bo-_polit cal o It I -' I oi was concluded - -- ' o tho macloar weapons tba no dac1a 1on would be i-eached - - _ -t e t- - - _ the Couno11 ma tins on Auguat 25 Mr Dillon said ho telt that w ough't i o t akG o pa t1on that tho pollcJ certa1nl7 ahoul d be restudied and we ahoul d e1 thor -rea1'1'1rm 1 t mod1 ito or abollah it SeONtaey aatea aaid he ro-lt that there was a need tor a docision on this matter barore the end or the Adm1 nS stra t1on aenera1 Stal bl rd poillted out that experience with tho UK showed that J 1m1ted cooparat1on 1a cl11 1'1cul t One ma j intend at the start to cooperate on relat 1vel - una dvanood weapons design but one aoon gets into the latoat techniques Kr Smith pointed out tho danger or leaks 1nd1oa1 1Iig that there waa Al ready soi ce public knolrl edge that th J s matter waa under cona1derat1on and that State and r etens6 were split on the 1 asue lira Sm 1th po1ntad out t bat 1r the French became aware tbo t there waa aon proapeGt or change 1n OS pol1c7 there was little proapeot ot cooperation trom thom along the lillea we are re 1011tl1 punb1 ng o o I I I o I o o - 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