'Multi 'Pagc n l b 7 C age 65 I age 67 I i 2 h l1y do t kIlOw wbahc r be would luvc bad to have being cash in 'ollC instaooe they 1 1 1 donation of two pigs That clearly wasn 't cash So I'm not absolutely'certain that 4 Pl'rovtd d 'l 0 - not On he olhcr hand be migbi have 11 outd ha e ty been aware of eaCh and cVcrj uight b ave lieen bey listen I a01 going to approve - you s know wb the r it's ill tbwnb 5 si 1e one of these lhings 1 1 b 7 Ito y to istal have you picked up all of this you know any kind docla lio ls that we in fuel Or 8 tack if i $ going 10lbc army 6 CUOUl 3Dd 1 want to know aboul it and I'Dl goipg 1o approve it 1bc point is that it would be appropriatefoc 6 pigs or this thai oc odlCf 'tbing aarl' iavc yoo n ported 10 il And ifl b 7 Ihad'rc sponded yes I' ve reported it 11 l b 7 C Ilhe CXlOlroller access 10 you know to 12 tbc entries and SO focth andso oo To me it would be l3 pCrl'c ctly llppropria1c that iRdudc it on his form 14 Now ihat - uponrdkc6og at 'this vet ' 15 instant you wbethcr is' Iu t cIY prcriscly in t6 conformity with the policy or whctlia the policy 'would ' o J ' o 11 ltXluiro andevay pctsOI1 who 1 3 1 any knowledge to 18 essentially repeat tile procedure '10 actually nO sure 19 Q Do y u taWw wbcthcrl b 7 Iwould review'tbe 20 submissions hiS under lings 2 A I don't know 1 I jus t 'I koow 8 Q We lL ill youe periodic lDocdags wba t ICvcl of' 9 debil di d you go through the Cnsitivc p aymc otsl And by 9 So 11m 1see Sluff like twn Ilig you know I I I - lativdy s mall and although it says mctbud uf p lY mCnt S wo uJd I ifC 10 s cositive paymCllts I _ bo th Ihc OOCI thaI I fCPA disdosun al d oiLer i1J 'l o f SCD$ili'f'O ymca 12 Q Ie was the kidd of tJUog tha i VA wall througlI i a tJ _ debit iuitidly IlIltil a p altcnl Wall atablisbed Add 14 Id cxpIaiIl thst a bit Thcguorilla paymcata 15 gucriIlli P tflD lts would DOi ha'f'O 8ppem d ou rhi fi 1 16 boclItisc tbcy were DOt FCPA a silivc typG pa 'DlCllts bualho 17 IIlI paymcats thai oovit lUsly was qwlc 1I oaclal oQ for b9w 18 ru aad quite - il wu a big dc al 19 SaiD iuilial periods wbell we sbftcd of 20 cxpcrimciag l1Ji kind of ex oitiOlJ Ii ' of all lb ' 21 required - not because Ihcn was a policy io place bUljusl Q Dill you have an expeCtation that he was reviewing 22 good sense Ibal luired'discussiog thai al some p tr high 23 levels in Chiquita 10 il was discussed wilb 'me fIJMIl 22 23 the submissions of his uuekrliDgs A 1 didn't have an expectation that IlC WS physically 24 24disCU Ssed il with my boss ad 2S reviewing the documcntand signing off on the do6Jmcnl I 2S $0 forthaod so no Q Whco you $ oy initial periods what lime puiod an Page 66 I had an expectation t 13 'as I m inal'7 lh 1 he would ful'e 2 beenconceroed thatlliedoCumalls wttc being fiIod on a' 3 limdy basis and'dJilt everybody understoOd tl 1 they 2 ncixIcd 4 we-were innipg 10 own our own farms lCquiraucitl Q Wc bricOy about tkapprov afpro ss for o pa 1$8 rin 'baciC that l G _ th' a laI bile foc the au bciOg 11lr Iol l4 tu dl ntanc1 that' Q ak l b 7 C was'a i 8 p i t wtuch 10 ' Iroa1c 'IlXQ 1talc 'd Od ihU fona tbc n is thC k' '8ot 'to disc lb ai Od bis m u i A 'I Ios or dIOse P3 ts is made wbcther ' 14 cash and you're not dealing in twu pigs you're dea iG ' ISlhat I9sUlC be t by himoiSomCbody thai tqxim to 16 ' liXI b 7 C o 1' 18 Q Do ls1 b 7 Irc quimhj appfoYi 'ait i9 p aymcuts nfiius 7 20 ' A I docl'l I Iir do'Q't rm 17 18 19 again 'i soo of m i'of a lecbai ai kiod ofauditiog and tiog approval kvds Rd Ottli U so 00 SO lcao'tlQiiYtcin you Somc it bave _ n vr n ifiC' i Re OOltin SClviccs Inc m co M a a o o 9 tim ale p a 'Ulalt thaI it' s ending up wbcrej 's dcs taJ k3nd how do we Icnuw lhat yOllknowffiill to Iisn 1 slc aluig it or 21 whal hav you 22 23 ' 24bc a pahap$ based upoot clas JCaboo some fit would tlatc 1Sbem basOO iIpQO amount to y not -bawdoweknowlha'thar lIyisa 20 Ilb 7 sn'l slC3line it cm b 7 C suic'tb31 71 thac is 22 ' ' IS casb and 'llllre dc llingia - yoo know maybe YOU'tt ling 16 in S20 OOO IJ 3yt c you're you know howdo wekoow lhat 11 ASo initially when Ihesc kind ofl'aymCnl$ - ur 'ia y nd is fair 'll wne ibai hi is 14 cabin that 8 Q Okay 12 blessutg the IIiuIsactioo Ihat il was L ' 13' Then ' 'IlJI'n cbIing in 12 fonlL Is Jhat com ctl 13 5 6 1 being' made tbac aft nwnbc r ofcooceros ri Wt1 OIIC 8 COllC U - a oum1xr of Dl30auOa ll Q I oqt leVI 9 concau s Thacwas Ibd gal roncc m rU'S1 of all is it 10 Ictal ' W gotbcyOndlhal __ got we vc told 'ngh II people both in and outside Cobnbb -docw bijoo 7 9 A I want to say pos -'S7 but iI's tough for me 10 ' 3 refine it much beyond that II would have benl periods when 4 to fi lhesc documrols on a lhndy bas'is and thal it Wa j' S Page 68 I you rdaring 107 J The sbolt llIlSwa' rb3t 1O some 'llU doo t n w I uM an IJOlcss YU l'n guing to go accOmpany wbcu ' 24 tbcy hand it off which wouJd IJ Ibc advisab c there's a 25 e attio kind of- Ibac'u cap uffaidl right __-'-_ c_ Page65 - Page68 202 29 -9626 11-2J-99                     National Security Archive    Suite 701  Gelman Library  The George Washington University    2130 H Street  NW  Washington  D C  20037    Phone  202 994‐7000  Fax  202 994‐7005  nsarchiv@gwu edu