• r THE UNDER SECRETARY OF DEFENSE WASHlNGTON DC 20301-2000 - --193 llJL 29 PA 12 08 OfH Oi rnE C ETARY Of ilEFBlSE 17 July 1993 SUBJECT Talhott-Yeltsin Conversations In our meeting this morning we talked about recent conversations between Strobe TaJ'bolt and President Yeltsin The attached cable is Strobe s snmmuy I call to your attention primarily the seclion on Ukraine and what appears to be a very positive saaremeot in suppon of early deactivation of Ukraine warheads along the lines of your proposal f G Wisner Fran Attachment _ From the Nunn-Lugar collection of the National Security Archive MEMORANOOMRlRSECREfARYOFDEFENSE CO 719 q7 6 IE U S Department of State Case No F-2015-00561 Doc No C05719676 Date 08 21 2015 RELEASE IN _NIDS PRINT REQUESTED B'i OSDl AT CRT #23 PAGE • 1 f it tt sEC RET lrll -lrlrlc -lr-lrlrlr1rlrlr1r-lr-lr'lrlrlrlr1rlr SPECAT i SECRET ••• fcAfctt tt tt1rlr1rlr-k-lrlrlr CDSN NID715 MCN 93190 10809 TOR 931902218 · FTSTOR 683660000 OTTSZ'ilJW RUEHCAA8814 1902212-SSSS• -RUEXNID ZNY SSSSS BBBBB ZZH o 092205Z JUL 93 FM SECSTATE WASHDC INFO DOD WASHDC IMMEDIATE JU' I 2 1993 e · D SECRET STATE 208814 SPECAT NODIS DECAPTIONEDI w LW Pb p p EYES ONLY FOR SHERFIELD FOLLOWING MOSCOW 20178 DATED 07 03 93 SEMI ACTION SECSTATE BEING REPEATED FOR YOUR INFO QUOTE SECRET MOSCOW 020178 NODIS E O 123S6 OADR PREL PARM MNUC M ICRE US RS TAGS SUBJECT YELTSIN TOKYO UKRAINE NUCLEAR DEAL MTCR 1 SECRET· ENTIRE TEXT 2 SUMMARY AMBASSADOR TALBOTT DELIVERED PRESIDENT CLIN'ION'S M SSAGE TO PRZSIDENT YELTSIN ON THE NUCLEAR TESTING MORATORIUM AND NEGOTIATIONS FOR A CTB FOR WHICH YELTSIN EXPRESSED HIS GRATITUDE YELTSIN DESCRIBED PROGRESS IN NUCLEAR DISMANTLEMENT AND THEN OUTLINED AN •AGREEMENT WITH UKRAINE WHICH WOULD LEAD TO START I AND NPT RATIFICATION INVOLVING RUSSIAN NUCLEAR SECURITY GUARANTEES• USE OF TWO RUSSIAN-CONTROLLED STORAGE SITES IN UIOtAINE TO FACILITATE EARLY DISMANTLEMENT RETURN OF ALL WARHEADS TO RUSSIA IN EXCHANGE FOR RUSSIAN NUCLEAR FUEL FOR UKRAINE POWER REACTORS AND RUSSIAN HELP IN PERMANENTLY DISABLING MISSILE SILOS IN UKRAINE ON MICR YELTSIN ACCEPTED U S ASSURANCES ON NOT INTERRUPTING RUSSIAN SPACE PROGRAM NOW PARTIALLY PACE 1 ········• 1rlr rlrirlrlr ' -lrlr SEC RE l' SPECAT tt ic1r'ictt ttt•tt-flf tt tt-k tt 8FCRFT · REVIEW AUTHORITY Frank Perez Senior Reviewer UNCLASSIFIED U S Department of State Case No F-2015-00561 Doc No C05719676 Date 08 21 2015 From the Nunn-Lugar collection of the National Security Archive BT CO 5 719 fi 7 6FIED ' U S Department of S ate Case No F-2 15-00561 Doc No C05719676 Date 08 21 2015 # PAGE 2 'k'lrli lrlr 'lm 1rlrlr 'klrlr lrlr SECRET SPECAT -Ir-It 1rlrlf H 'lrlr ri'lrtt'ir1rlr 'lrlr'lrlr 3 PRESIDENT YELTSIN ACCOMPANIED BY EPUT'f PRIME MINISTER SHOXHIN AND FOREIGN MINISTER KOZYREV MEI AMBASSADOR TALBOTT ACCOMPANIED BY PICKERING UNDERSECRETARY DAVIS AND VICE PRESIDENT'S NATIONAL SECURilY ADVISOR FUERTH AT THE mEMLIN AT NOON JULY 3 FOR ABOUT 4 5 HlNUTES 4 TALBOTT BEGAN BY CARRYING GREETINGS FROM PRESIDENT CLINTON AND OUTLINED U S PREPARATIONS FOR TOKYO Sl'RESSING TIIE PRESIDENT WAS DOING ALL HE COULD TO PREPARE FOR A SUCCESSFUL MEETING S TUIUUNG TO THE CTB TALBOTT EXPLAINED OUR POSITION ON TEST BAN MORATORIUM AND DELIVERED THE PRESIDENT'S LETTER NOTING THt DECISIVE NATURE OF THE STEP IN FOLLOWING UP VANCOUVER DISCUSSION OF THE ISSUE · 6 YELTSIN TERMED THE MESSAGE VERY ENCOURAGING AND REPEATED THAT RUSSIA WOULD CONTINUE ITS MORATORIUM UNTIL SOMEONE ELSE WHO ALSO HAD ACCEPTED A·HORATORIUM HAD TESTED AFTER WHICH RUC SIA WOULD TIUNK ABOlTI WHAT TO DO TURNING TO DESTRUCTION OF NUCLEAR WEAPONS HE SAID IN MAY 4500 WEAPONS HAD BEEN DISMANTLED INCLUDING 1000 STRATEGIC WEAPONS AND IHAT 'TKEY LOOUD TOWARD USING 'IHE PLUTONIUM AND URANIUM FOR FUEL A SIMILAR NUMBER APPLIED TO DISMANTLEMENT FOR JUNE RUSSIA WAS AHEAD OF START I REQUIREMENTS AND MOVING ON TO START II EVEN BEFORE RATIFICATION 7 TUIUUNG TO UKRAINE WHICH HE CALLED THE MOST IMPORTANT FOREIGN POUCY ISSUE BE FACES YELTSIN SAID HE HAD BEEN DEVOTING ALL HIS ENERGY WORKING WITH PRESIDENT XRAVCHUK AND HIS COLI EAGUES TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM REAL PROGRESS HAD BEEN MADE WHEN HE MET XRAVCHUK LAST TIME UICRAINE HAD HADE A FOUR POINT PROPOSAL TO ASSURE 'RATIFICATION OF START I AND lllE NPT FIRST RUSSIA WILL GIVE GUARANTEES ON NUCLEAR SECURITY SECOND TWO RUSSIAN CONTROLLED NUCLEAR STORAGE SITES IN UKRAINE WILL BE USED TO HOUSE DISMANTLED HlSSILE WARH ADS · THIRD UKRAINE WILL RECEIVZ LOW ENRICHED URANIUM NUCLEAR FUEL IN RETURN FOR WARHEADS TURNED OVER IO RUSSIA FOURTH PAGE 2 tirltttit ••· •• 'irlrlrll 'k 'lrlfirlr frlt'lrlt S E C R E T SHCAT _ ¼lr¼k·•···••tt1rtt-Hi A-- 'lrlt UNCLASSIFIED U S Department of State Case No F-2015-00561 Doc No C05719676 Date 08 21 2015 From the Nunn-Lugar collection of the National Security Archive DISPERSED TO SEVERAL JraW CIS STATES OF THE FORMER SOVIET UNION BUT WAS NOT PREPARED TO ACREE TO U S µNCUACE ON INDIA HE MADE THE CASE THAT CONTRACTS PRE·EXISTED U S LAW AND HE PROPOSED A TRANSITION PERIOD UNTIL JANUARY 1994 BEFORE MODIFICATIONS TO CONTRACT TO CUT OFF TRANSFER OF PRODUCTION l'ECHHOLOGY COME INTO EFFECT END SUMMARY CO 5 719 6 7 6 IED U S Department of State Case No_ _F-2015-00561 Doc No C05719676 Date 08 21 2015 • PAGE 3 'lt'lc·lrldrlt trlrlrlc'iri -lrlrll 1rlt SECRET SPECAT tt-ktt -lrlr 1rlr 'lrlrlrlt-lrlr-lrlr lf 1rlr 1m 8 AFIER CONCRAI'ULATING YELTSIN TALBOTT TURNED TO STRESSING THE NEED FOR EARLY '-AGREEMENT ON BOTH IMPORTANCE OF THE VANCOUVER COMMIIMENTS TO BOTH PARTIES AND THE IMPORTANCE OF HAVING THE AGREEMENT WRAPPED UP BEFORE TOKYO FOR SIGNATURE THERE TALBOTT HTCR SIDES THE THEN REVIEWED THE TWO AREAS OF CONCERN THAT HAVE EMERGED IH THE NEGOTIATIONS THE CIS STATES AND THE CONTRACT WIIH INDIA 9 ON THE CIS STATES THE U S SIMPLY WANTS A COMMITMENT THAT RUSSIA WILL NOT DO WHAT IT HASALREADY TOLD US IT IS IN ITS INTEREST NOT TO DO -- NOT ASSIST ITS NEIGHBORS TO ATTAIN A BALLISTIC MISSILE CAPABILITY THIS WOULD BE SUBJECT TO THE USE OF A CONSULTATIVE GROUP TO DEAL WITH DISCREPANCIES THAT MIGHT ARISE NOT INTRUSIVE INSPECTION 10 ON 'INDIA WE ARE PREPARED TO HELP Wini INDIA HE THEN URGED MOVING ON TO INITIALLING THE AGREEMENTS TODAY AND TO GET THE SPACE LAUNCH AND SPACE COOPERATION AGREEMENTS READY FOR SIGNATURE IH TOKYO 11 YELTSIN REPLIED 'IHAT HE HAD NOT HEARD JlY SURPRISES THE INDIA DUL INVOLVED OLD CONTRACTS HADE AT A TIME WHEN THEY WERE NOT AWARE OF U S LAW THERE WERE RULES ON RETROACTIVE APPLICATION RUSSIA WOULD NOT SUCCUMB TO U S PRESSURES AND AS A GREAT POWER IS NOT IN A POSITION VIZ INDIA TO CHANGE THE DEAL SOME 80-90 PERCENT OF THE TECHNOLOGY HAD ALREADY BEEN DELIVERED TO INDIA YELTSIN PROPOSED THAT THE CONTROLS BEGIN 1 JANUARY 1994 A •SMALL• TRANSITION PERIOD 12 ON THE CIS THE U S APPROACH WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE TO RUSSIA RUSSIA DOES NOT WANT TO SEE INDIGENOUS CAPABILITIES DEVELOP IN THE CIS AND RUSSIA COULD SUPPORT PAGE 3 'it'lrtt u 1rlt irlt-lt1rlrlr'lr 1rlf'irlc'lt1c1t SECRET SPECAT r1t-k 1rlrlr wtt-AAAAAllclclclclclctt UNCLASSIFIED U S Department of State Case Na F-2015-00561 Doc No C05719676 Date 08 21 2015 From the Nunn-Lugar collection of the National Security Archive RUSSIA WOULD HELP DISABLE MISSILE SlLOS IN UKRAINE WHICH UKRAINIANS WERE HESITANT TO DESTROY WITH EXPLOSIVES BY FILLING 11IEM WITH CONCRETE HE STRESSED THAT UKRAINE HAS NOTHING TO-DO WITH START II THESE ARRANGEMENTS COVERED ONLY START I HE ADDED THAT 68 TONS OP NUCLEAR FUEL WOULD BE SUPPLIED IN RETURN FOR THE MIRV WARHEADS THE NEGOTIATIONS COULD BE BILATERAL OR l'RILATERAL AND RUSSIA PREFERRED THAT THE U S SHARE HALF OF THE COST OP THE NUCL ' AR FUEL JCUCHMA AND KRAVCHUlC BOTH SAID THAT WITH THESE ARRANGEMElITS START I AND THE HPT CAN BE RATIFIED C05 719 67 6 IED U S Department of State Case No F-2015-00561 Doc No C05719676 Date 08 21 2015 • ACE p4 1rlrlr 1rlrk'k -lrll1r1l -lrlrlrlrlrlt'lrlr SEC Rt T SPECAT -t1r••tt 1rlrlrlrlri 1rl ttiftt U S LAW HERE KOZYREV REMINDED HIM IT WAS AN INTERNATIONAL REGIME AND YELTSIN AGREED SO LONG AS IT WAS NOT IMPOSING A VERIFICATION REGIME RUSSIA COULD AC E SHOKJUN INTERRUPTED TO SAY THAT E LANGUAGE IN THE PROPOSED MEMORANDUM DID NOT CONFORM TO TALBOIT'S ASSURANCES 13 T ALBO'l'l' REASSURED PRESIDENT YELTSIN THAT THE U S POSITION WAS AS HE PRESENDD AGREEMENT DID NOT FOLLOW YELTSIN' S PARTING WORDS 'WE NEED UNTIL JANUARY STATES PICXERING UNQUOTE DAVIS Bl' NODIS SPECIAL HANDLING $$$ $$$REQUIRED $$$ $$$ $$$COPY HUMBER········ $$$ 3 JOINT STAFF Vl ACTION INFO R M SJS-N l NHCC CWO NIDS l JS J4 JS SECDEF-N l BMDO USDA P L USDA STNFSAC ASD PA CC ASD PA E EPF USDP SP USDP PDISP USDP DASDEUR USDP DSAA USDP R P USDP·CH USDP S R USDP PD DR PS·DIO OCSA WASHINGTON DC CNO WASHINGTON DC SAFE TOTAL COPIES REQUIRED 3 IB814 SOM 22 23 45 EOH 22 23 53 NNNN 1rlrlrlt1rlc'kff 1rlrlr -lrlrlrk A kAk tt SECRET SPECAT - 'kw A Ir 4 ¼tctt1 1 -lrtr 1 1r'ic'lttt1rlrlctt UNCLASSIFIED U S Department of State Case No F-2015-00561 Doc No C05719676 Date 08 2 1 2015 From the Nunn-Lugar collection of the National Security Archive 1994 FOR A TRANSITION ON THE INDIA CONTRACT AND IN REl'tlRN WE'LL ACCEPT THI U S POSITION ON THZ CIS