C0129 0153 Approved for Release 2013 06 13 b 1 b 3 ' TOP SECitEr r C 26 October 1'979 MEr RANDUH FOR THE RECORD ·SUBJECT Conversation w1 th the Sec f ' Defense 25 October 1979 L_J 1 TACKSMAN alternatives For SALT reasons • the Secretary would like to mve ahead I pointed out ·tha t a good bft of ·the additional funding -would be pnmartly to maintain the ssions of the satellite and that the expense of last for thfs purpose seemed very high He seemed to agree with _tn was inter ested in making those i rovements which would lead to bet r·sJ_gnal to noise ratio J · told l im that we weN already doing some work on feed -horns and receivers We agreed that I would ·1001 mre carefully -at· the division of expen$eS between actions to preserv e the altematfye mtssfon and actions to make this a better telemetry ·receiver Hi ·wanted· t 1 also look a t whether we should do this with a_ Fiscal '80 I 1- Ito d 1 • ' t b• - i i• l• even tba a we were a rea 1n problems with some of· the ·other TACKSMAN •tternat1ves for funding • 1 na to rep gram I -p01n ou t understand a study 1s coming _fprward on this from CT end or RMS We·' ll need to pull all of that toqether fairly quickly and get back to i r a Secretary •' 2 The Secretary said he would look for a two uar for d put y to CT He tndf ated Gene Tighe was working on plan to demonstrate the transferability of the NITC in the event of a Presidential decision to shift CO'iltrol of Colle tfon Tasking a I topY b Of GP S CRET Approved for Release 2013 06 13 · C01290153 ' Approved for Release 2013 06 13 •' FOP 'SEC ET -1 assured Graham Claytor that we would be in to hfm soon with a paper on ·how-we would plan ta stay mre fnvol retLwfth_the__fenr gon despite not ·movfn9 a large CT contingent there _ _ _ _ _ __ _ · 3 -Wfth sP ect ·to the State OMS study of overseas stafffng the Sec re talj' tndh ated that there were six 1n tellf gence studies rr equired He understadils · that we have farmed three of them out to NSA HSA wfll do those ·and 1n addition wf 11 make an fnput ff needed to the other three Ha Is planning to send a letter ta ·OIIB sayfng that as far as the cryptolDgSc program· is concerned· he thfnks t_hat sho1Jld be handled in· the budget process rather 'than fn ·some sepa_rate study _ I to 4 Graha Claytor 1s handlingl7He wants another week resolve ft He saf d there were so ms which they had I told h m I had only·heJrd of one whfch was related to the nmtier of clearances that would be granted I -saf d J df· t think this was ·ari issue and · shouldn't stand fn our way that our oro0onL dfd not _- have establfsh t of ceilings or quotas as p rt of ft _ I 5 We discussed the SR-71 l told bi-monthly would probably be enough • We severe weather conditions e 1 11 take care of openings when t w a s ' hfm IIIY feel fng was nx nthly or both·agre d that if there were want one fn the near term· to not available · · -He did ask whether we have given adequate attention to Cuban mf11-tary mtters and order of battle with recent coverage I told him I didn't ·know that You will recall tha on a previous o casion he • 1ndf cated he· thought that Cuban mflftary activity was a ·departmental intelligence requ1re111ent rather than_ a national one J don't agr ee though I dfdn' t dispute ft wfth hfm Obviously there 1s interest fn the Cuban miJf tar y fn DoD and or fn rest fn using ·that as a reason for cont1nuing -SR•71 flights J 'd ap recfate a response on whether there fs a need for additional photograp y 1n order to take care orthe Cubans I I ------ · · 6 I went through th Jr atfonale with hfm He said he tended to agree with 1 t He wanted thf nk about it 1111re however ff I dtd not hear fron hfm by 30 October• consider hfm to be on board with thl Hermann plan j 1· • 7 -We talked about the NFIP and next w k's PRC J meeting - · He asked Graham Cla vtor to c ck whether there was some provision for intelligence fn their bans 5 and 6 I didn't undersUnd what that meant and Claytor fndfcated he would look into ft 2 TOP SECRET Approved for Release 2013 06 13 C01290153 Approved for Release 2013 06 13 l'OP SEGRE We tilked about - the relationship between his preview ·of the DoD budget t o the Congress in November and the tlFJP · He is going to be in to OH with his preview on 1 November He and OHS will complete their revtiN of it by 10 November He believes ·we should be ready fn that pertDd to give·a good preview of our budget If 0MB cuts some things ou - Of• the D uda t ·they may be avaflable· as crddftional ·slices to be put flJto ours - hould what we can ·do to ant1cipate sre our- ffovsber dat e en llSKeTe 1 'form J • a I · 9 J failed to get · ebrlef on·his trip to Japan I I 1 10 1 fnvited Graham Claytor to lunch He said ·the week after next would be the first opening He ts go ng to Hawaff next ek Let's follow up on hat with s staff and see if we can do it l I • • 11 · The space shuttle didn't conie up and I ·didn't raise ft The Status •of Fiscal •ao u ems on the Hill did not come up and I •didn't raise ft ----------- __ --- - -- --- -- - -- - - 1 · 13j_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ ___J p •• • I - --- ---------------- _______r OP SECRET Approved for Release 2013 06 13 _ _ __ _ __ _ __ _ _ __ C01290153 Approved for Release 2013 06 13 •• OP ·SECRET · C 16• I dictn•t rafsf the 'ouestton of tbe new space cglllltfttee ·1n Defense I 17 1 dlU tllk about the I des1rab111ey of·declass1fy1ng the -status __ of Ni- adme·seemd ·to agree·withJt genenl y I told h1111i wn ild send hfa a Jetter propos19g that tfdo tA is 1nditow we do f t - ___ ' ___ • _ r·• ·i ···· - · 4 OP SeCRif Approved for Release 2013 06 13 I · · f