DA ra rf May 10 1962 I A t rdc Fhorgy PARTICIPANTS Starr on Defcnso1 · M 7 Start Director Mr John Com '11 Y Deputy tat Director JCA E Mr Ruesell Fessenden Director RP'rl Mr Alan Jl llles RPM Hr J lll leS f a qey JCAE COPIES TO L - S S G G PM M - Mr Owen S AE ElJR 2 1 RPM 2 WE GER BNA USRO SHAPE L - Mr Stoessel OSD ISA - Mr Nitae Mr Rowen Gen Eaton OASD AE - Dr Johnson CP O OOJ oc ' At t he requeet of ChDirman Holifi eld of the JCAE Hr Conwy nrrADged o brier th13 afternoon on f efense issues raised at the HATO 1 1eoting in •th ma Sinoo Chairmn Holifield was at the l ast minute umble to oo present t the briefing Mr Rlu'Qey received it on his behalf Hr Fessenden opened by stating that the AtbsnB masting hod boen comidered very succc sstul and had made solid 11oc0111pllslcenta eapec1 nlly in the field ot nuclear policy The three main areas ot diacueoion a t tho Athene meeting 11erer l assurances 2 nuclear information and 3 guidelines Regardillg assurances Mr Fessenden 11nid that tho US confirmed ito prc viouoly stated undortcldng to provide NATO with an adequate nuclear capabUit y i'hio he said vao o general guarantee and did not go into specifics regarding numbero of nuclear weapons Hr Ramey interjected to a sic vhether there 11aa ar q diacusoion about numbors - ot nu 'llear weapons to be lllllinto ined 1n Europe and aekod vmthar tho European t knmr about the prqpoaed reBUHJpti on of dieperoal of nuclear '- C'1Pan J In reply# Hr Foaseodcn oaid there hnd been no talk of nunbera and ns o r no he could tell 11 t thiD 111011 ant a t l ea at the Europoan i were not mraro of too di D ral quostion at all Our ruisuranceo Hr rosaonden continued ' 18TO 11ell received by all ll G7ilbera ot tbs Alll Mce Mr fu mey thon 11 1Sked 11ho ther t ho 'S 11a os 0 71 ilr pllcation on the ot t he US tlnt ve wonlc1 send add 1t 1onnl veopons to Europe To this Mr Fessenden s tnted noJ ve had merely stated in genera tel'lll l t ha t an ndequo te level or nuclonr -wei ipons 11ould be J I0 1 ntained 1n NATO RoBU rning Mr Foaeendsn f laid that t here 1raa a second part to tha aasurMcea n 1to ly that Smet targo t o tJu•oat-'3ning Europe vould be adequately covered This t oo he anid uas a generally pbrl18ed aaaurllilce and cast in tems of as fully as posoiblo Th US atreaoed that V G vore not giving priority to tarr e ta of concern mainly to the US The second SF CRcT · · ' • ' J ·-- - 4 · · • -· • ' _ r - · -c · - -·- OECLASSlFlEO ·- R PPOOUCC h 1 T - - - - __ _- • - •Ct1ATIOttM 11n c •1vci ' ✓ - • • I ---i ·-- -· i £o 7 N A b ' c 11 B NAM Datel P 1 J L lonr inf '' • nvalvod J ATO topic gifullor ''' nuclear mttoro Mr Yo s andon oaid thlt o opocinl 11t1alear 1ntorct1on oOt mittoo had been sot up to provide th raoch lniam tor pneoing t hio Won it ion to UATO indicated that thio vao not iotonded to bo o c eo no or paaoirlg Roatriotod DotA to 11A'i'O but rnther the goneral kinch J of in ClrtllD tion neod ed to help r ein arco CIUl' noom-nnceo To re1n orce our aeiournnoci it ie eeeont i l l thot ltATO chou ld kno r r ioro foots a bout our nucl ear areC'Dal ond lonning The oigni ionnoo of tho datA progmm lloo in tho tact thot it vUl contrtbuto to tho odueot1on o our cul i ea o nd bolp to rein creo the eneo fc r tho c-onvention 11 buil dup Kr R ay oboervad tbnt tritbin tho JCAE there ne considerabl e doubt that nc ding rurthor lfflnPOllD to tho RATO stockpile uauld eocourogo tho coovention u buildup There th m inaued e diocl 13oion con erning our intention not to paos Restricted Dato through the opecie l nuclear infantation 00 l ld ttoo ltr Comay viahod to Ima proc19oly what kinds of in orns tion would be paseed To thio Mr Fellocndon replied that tho io orrcation wuld be ot o eensrol oh11rciot er n g plnnning or nuclear varf1 1 ro Mr Commy ea1d he saw oer tain 11dTil ntageo 1n girlng nt l eMt P'Ol'll Orly Re stricted Onto to our al 11 ee through the opocial inforir ation eommitteo RA thought that it voul d bo importent f or tbe alllc s to knczt tor OXll Qplo hou varhesds vould be available through 1965 And ho wClllderod vhy a r eotriotion had been placed OD not pueing Restrioted D it a through tho conmdttco Re pointed out t hat under the 1955 At io Cooperation Agreement witb NATO Roatrictod DatA mey be paaoed for Defense planning purpooeo Mr Foas6llden answor1 ng Mr Rs meT'u question about too ot oct o 0011vontiono l build-up said t ha t by g1Ying MATO general in onnation on numbers o VOAp0D3 o Yllilable uo ' '0Uld oh011 hc ll o01llpleto ws tho nuel 0'1%' do onDo of NATO Thia 1n turu urud n1nforce our case for tho eonv-entiono l buildup Mr Fesoond on CQJ led particular attention to the fact thllt eol'l 3 of our a lllie o otuolly roar thnt UATO rmolear datenso is being out down Mr Rar ay ogreod on tbiD point nnd noted tbnt 1l'O con under tho 1955 o grecm nt or the bilateral ogrocments paoo c good deal o Reotrictcd Dato Hr fo3senden oaid the guidelineo ore tha third ol nlffllt in our PpncJcnsa• Th0y opoll out the oiro tanoea und e r '17hich nuclear weapooo ht bl Utied and tho ruloo for conaultotion Thay serve the dual purp03e of a iau thooe CC1U11tries vhich eo r that thero sey be an unvarrsnted dolasr on uoo dlld tbooo wbioh t eo r th ly voul d not bo con nuted Thero ia nothing nm i n theoo guidoli Mo Mr Feoeondc n poiotod out they morol y l Ullco 111ore ol'1 1al and elnbornto eo nib At on uhllt too US caid in April 1961 in the North ltllultio Council on uhiob tb 3 JCAE hnd ooon briotcd At thflt t ir e o s llic toot 1n the ovont of a n o ll-c it nuoloar o tto ok by t ho 30Tic to nucloar veapoz a would be w ed and thnt nuelenr roapono uould bo u acxi in tho event or caiv 11ntior l o ttnck by too Soviotll w1 th wbi oh KA1'0 orcoo could no copo Ono of tha mportant objectives of tmcs guidellmo is to givo 11stmro noe0 e9poc1Ally t o trui more expoactd meibors or HA TO to our rondinaso t o uso nucl onr 'lo'llapano S CRE ij Hl PP JOUC OATTHG-tlA _T_ IOI-IA- - - · • '• _ • · - _ - ·-- _ • l A CHIV • f ' • ' • •• • • 1 - • - ' · · • - - w · - • • • • • OECLASSIFIEO lhorE N JJb a J t NARA ' t i z1I '· · -·· ······-·- -- - - ale'' P 4 -- 3ECRBT -3 · Hr Rs mey inquirild uhother wo ha d r 1von llfliT oosurancOtJ en not 1 Glllov1ng raiolenr voo pon ro th 1 IJ Mr Yor aenden said no oolll llit nt bo d boon givon not to pull cut micloo r 'l'ICopono Th9 only relevo nt s t n t bo d been tho general ooonro neo that adoqunto voo pons would be ovoiloble • r 11 r 11 1 •I 1 'I 1 j A turthor oopect or th0 guideline nr Fosaendon noted lr lO tho undertald D I tP VQn by tho US to conoult on tho uso or nucloa r lfe lpcn J nnyuh lro 1n tl D orld it ti pomittcd At Ath no the H1n1 Dtero confi r d t hii1r undorotnnd1ng or th leo t hreo oopooto or llATO'o nucl onr progrwo Mr Fosoondon noted tint U1 b ad ll probl cni ot Atheno 'lfith th3 Frsnch on tho gu 1dol1nes but tbo t o oolution bo d boon ound thr h an empty choir 11pprooch One ot the major 1 teratJ at Athens ffllO O'IJr onncun00T 1ant t b l t ue voro col l litt1ll l - Palo rlD aulxDAr1nes to· W TO This bGd e licitod n vr ry nvoroblo respanco llr Feaoendon oaid Wo bad stated th at of eotivo ilz adintolJ ue wU O • e · tor o asign oont to SACL lll' ivo Polllria 11ubMrinee to lt TO lie atipulatod that by tho end o 1962 tvo t OTO vill be co itted end by the end 1963 tuolTI rill bo vo • beec ool Cdtted Allo fing tar tvo eubmarirois to bo 1n overh iul lATO vould bavo Q not or ten _cow dtted by the end ot 1963 Mr Fe soendon pointed out thnt ue h ld otros11od at Athe ns that th4l Polaris oubmarineo bo d beon c ittod or too dof00110 o tho ill1anco 11 s o vbol e and tl%lt thoir central iring t 1n1ng and th like 1 - ould bo-ro to bo rognl ated to meet t ho needB c f tho Allillnce ao o vhole and not c a the requil Olllento or one co111lU1Jld or or one theater Hr Rnlney observed tbat thD J oint Ccn i dtteo hnd gone a long with us on OUl intonti oil to o rmc tme0 the oal l dtllll nt or Poll1l'ifl submar1D3o In Mr Feooendon 1o opinion our tumOUllCet Cllt o ca nitc ant had a good e feot J ve haTo preoerved oar freedom or cction but tbs ec maitnent bn been 11 helptul oyi ibol of the 1 nditloibllit r o tho de moo ot too ' 11 1DDt O • I• i Nr Yosoenden otntod that MRBM 1 o a rd DNJ tll o teral force wen not real lJ' I l '' ' I I ' I • 1 o I I I ll I I '• 'J I I ' I I j i e1 or o ubJoot ct Athell J ill the US d1d va o to irt ato that 1 tho Alliel'J Clro intoro tod 1n the crentior or c crultilnt cra l KRBH orco uo would be pro rod to diDcuso vith tooa the po9111bil1ty at ootobliohing a cnClborno r mltll o terol ly nnd controlled f'orco We did otreoo howov r thnt 003' a ct ion in th n £1old 'C'Ould bavc to «o h lnd 1n band vith th convontionQJ buildup Our o nnouncc nt or h l oc it ait o the Pol aria aubi nrino11 bo d n n odd1t1on il helptul c tcot Hr Fosoondon otntcd 1n that 1t ahould bolp to reliovo prosouro i tor procipitoto notion en an MBBM toreo · ' l' 11 Corcllly intorJactod to n to that ottr m U 1tory h ld boon cnccurogirJs t o Burapoen i i 'l t h31r c ueat tor MPJlM's Ni- Foonend n noted that mna y Im-opczµw oey tboy uant o comparnbl copo billt y to thnt of tho Soviets c cing no they do ea JOO Soviet • o targetted on weotern Europo Contlmd ng Wr F iooel2d Gn onid th lt th US iG trying to cha tho Buropao no th at our oxtornal craoo OVor Soviet 1mBlt tbrooto It 1o fer this renoon that target cavorogo 1D a n itlpart4Jlt noP30t 1n our infonn ition prograin In rosponDo 3ECITT T • I 'I -'1lo r ocI' tlD-0 to o quoo tion from l r iamoy aa to o ny tnlk nbout OJl indo1-' lndent 11 ro rorc o nr Feoi ondon GOJ t t lwt t ho o had not IJocn preaood on thia GUbJoct 1 tO hu ve trioc1 t o go a o far ru3 we cu n t o eivo the EuropclUIO a e rentor ro o in nuclear mnttl'ro in or lcr to horid off nntionlll cai nhil1tioe 1 hi lo the Fronoh• or ooureo bod trouhlo with our api roaoh t trnuo l o ncl othero incUo ted oatiofaction lfith it Hr Conway aaked iheti er tho nuclear i nform t ian co11t1 itteo would be turu'to up of cdlitar y or civLliGJls Hr Feor ondeu i ndlcnted t ha t the cO ll litteo would probnb be o coi- Jllittoo or the r' 1rmW1ent Council Re a iholo ancl thua a civili in body Hr roaoendt-n indica ted in rer J y to a queutlon that much or the intormntion to be pru oed to tho infori i tion Co Tll'Jittec woul d be or a oharocter all reo dy known to N- O milita ry of icora Kr 11 lDcy inq i red whether any detoilo had been diocuoood i n connection with t h e euidellnoo ant l further whet woOJld 'bo done if thoro wGre no u ninim1 ty Hr f'o1J looden Bnid there had boen no discuoeion o f 1 mpl cmonto tion or what inlr h t bs done if th re were not uninimlty The idolinoo• ho thought etruolc a good bnl nnc b itu 'on our rc t' dinecrn t o consult and our r o t ni ng roodor o 11ction t o rciwond quickly in t he event o an cmcrg ncy It hWl bocn a fundWltontal prinoi3 lo in N l'O ho· a tated tluit tho r eepoctl vo ni i 11J e ra mil¢tt n o t collectiYC y or 1nd1rldunlly in th- ir Ol lll d4' 0n le oo the ' 'reo ty itoolf ot toe The U S ho otresecd 0 1111 1ot a lwnyll 'bo Q 1 iq-ty t o tho decision t o uoe nuclot1r 11eRron0 Mr Rrunoy u Dk od 1uhothor ocro tarioe i' usk nnd Mclfanu u-a had r iado 1 re pared otnte111- nlo o t Athens o nd wheth e r t i o r ommittoe r1ieh t hcwo copieG o f those otatomonts Mr ·oooenden i z11Ucatod t ha t he onld l ook into thi i m ittor Ir fesoonden Ctlf•r i i o th t c t · thono we hnd aloe hit hard on tho importanco of tho conventiollCll builrlup Ho no ted th 1t over the l i t year we had lll9de a cortain runount of r rogrosn l' r Conwey collad Rtt en tion to a recent opc ooh by Uenorl l Cls rke at the ' 'ar College in which he had indico t0d t hn t tho otrcngth or Ge rorcoo o more 11pr nron t t h n real rit1 rily becnucie of l aclc of do1ith in their logistic 111 1 pr -o rt Mr FoaGondou c t1 t9d t ha t th e U io atlecnpting t p ive the GortNlllO help in tho logioticn oron N'ld no t er l ht1t tho k·m ns hnVI worked 011t oomo b i l a t e ral arrru1go nto 111 t h the fri nch and othHr countrioo t o im rove their logi Gtlce oup1 -o rt Hr Foea inden noted ir i Tovomento tmuic by Frllllce i n ito conventional orcoo llo conceded th t flr l tioh f o rcoo r or nin n i roh lel l with the 8 0 not eitrong ao it chould ho but with co Jc 1 r oc1 ectc of i mr-r o vlng i to ot1turo Kr 1 onwo y notcrl tli t llurini the IJrlofing of the JCAf by tho ii 1ecutivo llro neh on ay l on r cGumi -t lon f ditsJ crnal of nuc leur we u1 orus it had been otated that J o oD GO anrl tote vould re vi c- lho •1uootion of d1srorEW l of nucleo r weapons to Turld oh o t ril- o aircraf t In t hie connec t ion ho a r nt ioncd t hat the report of tho utcommittoe of tho J CA F on itc trip to F urop in 1% harl citod Turkey 1u u probloni n re11 in re or ect t o quick reRc tion lcrt nia µo 61 llono Hr Coru a y isaid t hr t jJtlroona lly ho t hous lt z t ato nd Dofo wc in o x lni ig the current ai tu tion in Turkey should no t ba oon stre in@d by tho Subco1u ittee • o r oport part icularly in liijl t of t he r onnunent a ciliUoo or - llick Hc iction - lert now ir pl oco in Turkey c nd tho gc11 1rall y improved oecurity oitu t1on nt s1 t o in t lw t country I n concluding I i r r In concluding Hr llllJ lOy aGked ior r ore in or01 ition on why llootrictcd Dato would not bo l l O od through tho a - ocio l infon - tion com··ittoo roitor ti ng hio viov t ha t thia mi ht be done I Ul lor tho uthority oi' the 1955 rce111ent Re a loo etntad thnt the Corr r iittea oi ltt bo writing u l ott r shortly conoerning tho Exocutive Brnneh decieion to reoumc dhir ermu of nu clear w o -ona It 1G a1 1011mod that ho woo roferring to tbe concern oC the Co 1tttcn over the no-callod p rity conoopt wheroby it is doomed dttsiroblo mil 1 t arily to l lc k Rvoilt b le to forcoo h 1ving the a1J -r o min1 J on tho io kindo of w o on o SE CRET NATIONAL SECURITY ARCHIVE This document is from the holdings of The National Security Archive Suite 701 Gelman Library The George Washington University 2130 H Street NW 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