I k • I LEGR a Foreign Service of the ID Y I United States of America Autllor 9d lO s d u 5 1 ·i 0 h 0 1 0 r • S OUTGOING Amembassy ROME S E CB E T Charge ClassificaHon Control Date Sent SE CSTATE WASHINGTON PRIORITY 1327 Info Amembassy ANKARA PRIORITY 58 90 January 9 1963 1700 Amembassy PARIS PRIORITY 275 LIMIT DISTRIBUTION S I S PARIS PASS FINLETTER AND CINCEUR DEPTEL 1241 I had long conversation with Defmin Andreotti this morning 5 jm on oroposal for replacement JUPITE3 His first ouestion was - w 0 whether April 1 date was important since he said it would be • much easier for Italian Govt to deal with question from political tf point of view after rot after parliamentary elections in soringi He pointed out left wing campaign aeainst missiles had started up again and that t heir remo·v al would be cla imed a s great victory by left and condemned as preat defeat b ri ght In re pl y I said U S Govt deemed it most important that R J UPITER weapons system be replaced as soon as possible oreferably well before April 1 date Andreotti seemed to accept this but went on to expl ain t hat in pre- election period oolitical probl e m would be difficult to handle and he was sure fanfani would have much to say about this in his forthcominp visit to Washington Andreotti wondered also RfPRODUCTION FROM THIS COPY IS PROHIIITEO UNLESS UNCUSSlflfD -· ' t V • I I I' a f • J f'C 0 Lf tt •• • 111 tr fllf OFFICI L FILE Cvl'Y r IJ i ' • DECLASSIFIED Authority f JNO 9 9 10 rm ___ _ _ _ of the United States of America OUTGOING S E CRE T Charge Classi ficalfon - 2 - Control Date whether US Govt had given full consideration to damage that could be done to excellent post-Cuban image resulting from President's handling of Cuban affair With respect to Italy itself optimum solution to meet both kinds of internal political attack would of course be Italian two- key participation in POLARIS submarine operation which he realized was impractical in near future and secondly utilization of GARIBALDI I explained US position on latter but said we were prepared to study matter with Italians in connection with development NATO multilateral nuclear force He also said it would of course be helpful if some progress could be made with res pe ct to assistance to Italy toward their development of nuclear propelled submarine I said Gilpatric would be prepared to discuss this with him during his visit next month Andreotti poi nted out t hat missile brigade at Gioia del Colle had about two thousand Italians engaged in operation JUXR%B maintenance and protection of JUPITER instllations Its decoJTU'l'issioning will be graphic step backward for Italy from present involvement and Participation with of West to one of no participation u s in nuclear defense I mentioned proposal to SECRET Classification REPRODUCTION FROM THIS COPY IS PROHIBITED UNLESS UMCLASSLFIED I JJ LASSllt'JED Authority ' LEGR NO 9 J 9 Q I Foreign Service of the United States of America OUTGOING S E C R E T Charge Control Date replace Corporals in SETAF wi th Sergeants He acknowledged this would be helpful and seemed to lay as much importance on continued US presence there as on modernization of wea pons system I also mentioned possibility that when p lanninp for MLF launched in NATO US Govt might be able to accept some officers and technicians from genuinely interested NATO countries to b e gin studies POLARIS weaponry Andreotti said he had not discussed his initial conversation with McNamara with anyone in Italian Govt but t hat since receipt of Secd ef ' s letter Sunday he had studied it wi t h his Chiefs of Staff and informed President of Republic He was meeting with Fanfani and Piccioni at noon today and would bring them into picture I asked him why Cattani had raised question with me before I left for Washinpton Andreotti ' s response was to draw several telegrams from dossier which re ported conversations held in Ankara by Turkish Foreign Ministry with Italian Embassy based on Secs t ate 's and Secdef ' s conversations with Tu rks at Paris NATO •meeting They dealt only with proposal to withdraw JUPITERS from Turkey inasmuch as Italian Ambassador involved was not awa r e that proposal also extended to Italy SECRET REPRODUCTION FROM THIS COPY IS PROHIBITED UNLESS UNCUSSlflfD Classification • r I I $• • h t C•' • t ' t ' rtt 11 1 lr c 6 J ' a • ' ' 1d rt l f • 1 # 1 J • _ t 1 0 FFICiAL FiLE CO i i q DECLASSIFIED Authority r NQ LEGR 9 J IO o of the United States of America OU TGOING SECRET Charge Control Date • In messapes I saw Turkish position was that they did not rpt not objec t in principle to dismantling of JUPITERS in Turkey but would seek in compensation another form of tw0- key nuclear participation with U S preferably in submarines I am seeing Fonmin later this afteroon and Prir-in thereafter · voc'-0 It be helpful for future conversations t •i th Italians if Dept could advise me as soon as possible whether su ges tion i nus warheads made in working 8roup that JUPITER syste be left with Italians for space research is racticable REI 'HARDT FP f Concurrences DC f HGAinsworth r · DA Gannet POL WMFraleigh ' SfCRET C lassif icatio n 'i ' rt I • I T - 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