Q£rqra SEGREi -SBCREl'f- il 4871 4871 ILa I THE THE WHITE WHITE HOUSE HOUSE WASHINGTON DECLASSIFIED DECLASSMED PER 13526 PER E O E 0 13526 C 5ao 5- D7810-731' f'rlPO-'l 3 Z Z0 d 3 1 i o 3 D KSVi ¼S 1 MEMORANDUM MEMORANDUM OF OF TELEPHONE TELEPHONE CONVERSATION CONVERSATION SUBJECT SUBJECT Telcon Telcon with with President President Boris Boris Yeltsin Yeltsin of of the the Russian Federation U Russian Federation U PARTICIPANTS PARTICIPANTS The The President President President President Boris Boris Yeltsin Yeltsin Interpreter Demitry Zarechnak Zarechnak Interpreter Demitry Notetaker Beth Sanner Notetaker Beth Banner DATE TIME DATE TIME AND AND PLACE PLACE 28 28 June June 1993 1993 1 05 1 05 -- 1 33pm 1 33pm Oval Office Oval Office President President Clinton Clinton Hello Hello President President Yeltsin Yeltsin Hello Hello Bill Bill U U U U President want to to thank thank you you for for taking taking a a few few moments moments President Clinton Clinton II want to talk with me today Thank you for Foreign Minister Kozyrev's to talk with me today Thank you for Foreign Minister Kozyrev's statement ei statement on on Iraq Iraq That That was was very very helpful helpful President That was was not not the the President Yeltsin Yeltsin That was the opinion of the leadership was the opinion of the leadership of of statement of of Kozyrev Kozyrev statement Russia 3' Russia It It President Thank you you wanted to to talk talk to to you you about about aa President Clinton Clinton Thank II wanted couple of issues today I am genuinely sorry that Vice couple of issues today I am genuinely sorry that Vice President President Gore and Prime Minister Chernomyrdin not meet Gore and Prime Minister Chernomyrdin could could not meet today today as as planned and planned and that that last last week's week's talks talks on on missile missile sanctions sanctions failed failed The provides little The law law here here provides little room room for for me me on on the the missile missile technology issue It is important that we reach technology issue It is important that we reach agreement agreement by by July 15 and before our meeting in Tokyo next week because II want July 15 and before our meeting in Tokyo next week because want to past 8' to talk talk about about the the future future not not the the past II hope be agreeable hope you you will will be agreeable to to me me sending sending Ambassador Ambassador Strobe Strobe Talbott who is very close to me and coordinates Talbott who is very close to me and coordinates U S -Russia U S -Russia relations relations in in our our government government along along with with Lynn Lynn Davis Davis our our top top negotiator on this issue and Leon Fuerth Vice President negotiator on this issue and Leon Fuerth Vice President Gore's Gore's National Security Advisor I hope they will be able to meet National Security Advisor I hope they will be able to meet with with Chernomyrdin perhaps meet Chernomyrdin and and perhaps meet with with you you for for aa few few minutes minutes to to settle II would settle the the India India missile missile issue issue would like like that that issue issue to to be be out by the $ out of of the the way way by the time time we we meet meet in in Tokyo Tokyo President Bill II fully fully agree agree with with you you would like like President Yeltsin Yeltsin Bill II would to say just a few words First as to the Constitution the to say just a few words First as to the Constitution the process is believe if process is going going on on well well And And II believe if we we resolve resolve this this it it will help improve our economy Of course as to Tokyo discussion will help improve our economy Of course as to Tokyo discussion -SECRE'f-SEeRBT- Declassify on OADR SEGRE REGRET -SE GREf 2 SECRE'f OECRB¥- on parts of billion we on all all the the parts of the the $43 $43 billion we will will need need to to exert exert additional efforts Today everyone is waiting for practical additional efforts Today everyone is waiting for the the practical integration of Russia into the world economy and the removal integration of Russia into the world economy and the removal of of all all the the obstacles obstacles as as we we discussed discussed in in Vancouver Vancouver II really really count count on on our our meeting meeting in in Tokyo Tokyo and and II hope hope we we can can sign sign aa declaration declaration not of the seven leaders but of the eight not of the seven leaders but of the eight leaders leaders You You will will understand this that to Iraq we declared that your actions understand this that to Iraq we declared that your actions were were justified This remains in but you understand we justified This remains in effect effect but you understand we have have many 21 many Muslims Muslims and and they they are are somewhat somewhat worried worried As As to to your your last last point point on on missile missile technology technology and and the the engines engines for for India India As As we we say say in in Russian Russian this this is is not not aa matter matter for for the the czars czars And And II would would say say let let thethe experts experts discuss discuss India India Iraq Iraq and and Iran Iran There are many questions This is a matter for experts There are many questions This is a matter for experts not not politicians presidents We politicians or or presidents We should should avoid avoid taking taking decisions decisions that that could affect the global relationship between our countries could affect the global relationship between our countries that that could before Tokyo could affect affect the the world world II agree agree we we should should decide decide before Tokyo President President Clinton Clinton Yes Yes U U President This problem problem should should not not affect affect the the friendly friendly President Yeltsin Yeltsin This relations between the United States and Rus'sia And I would relations between the United States and Russia And I would say say the with Chernomyrdin place in the meeting meeting with Chernomyrdin could could take take place in the the second second half half of of July July And And they they might might put put the the final final touches touches on on Well Well II agree agree that your envoy Strobe Talbott should come to Moscow that your envoy Strobe Talbott should come to Moscow so so that that we we might $21 might sooner sooner have have an an agreement agreement President President Clinton Clinton Good Good U U President Bill look look here here maybe maybe we we could could suggest suggest to to President Yeltsin Yeltsin Bill India that they have strict limitations on missile exports India that they have strict limitations on missile exports But But the between us but between between the the agreement agreement is is not not between us but the former former Soviet Soviet Union Union and and India India and and no no one one can can blame blame us us for for this this You You understand we cannot just break this agreement understand we cannot just break this agreement and and we we cannot cannot just break our relations with India You must also understand just break our relations with India You must also understand that working on that we we are are working on aa memorandum memorandum of of understanding understanding on on space space technology and we are prepared to join the Freedom project technology and we are prepared to join the Freedom project President Yes II understand understand that that Let me me make make one one or or President Clinton Clinton Yes Let two comments on this I appreciate your agreement to let two comments on this I appreciate your agreement to let Ambassador back II will Ambassador Talbott Talbott come come back will have have him him there there by by Wednesday I understand that the missile technology Wednesday I understand that the missile technology agreement agreement with India was signed by the former Soviet Union but with India was signed by the former Soviet Union but my my experts experts believe these sales could lead to the creation of a nuclear believe these sales could lead to the creation of a nuclear delivery by India delivery capability capability by India U S U S law law is is v ry very strict strict on on this this II do we reached do not not have have aa lot lot of of discretion discretion In In May May we reached agreement agreement to participation in to give give Russia Russia access access to to participation in the the space space launch launch market as well as our efforts in the oil and gas market as well as our efforts in the oil and gas sector sector We We need because there need to to get get on on with with that that because there will will be be immediate immediate economic benefits for economic benefits for Russia Russia We We need need to to resolve resolve this this issue issue II want that to be translated then I will say something about want that to be translated then I will say something about the the G-7 G-7 -SEGRE ■O SECRE1' 3ECRET- Now to approve the first Now about about the the G-7 G-7 The The IMF IMF is is going going to approve the first $1 5 $1 5 billion in assistance this week The G-7 is shaping up well on billion in assistance this week The G-7 is shaping up well on Russian the privatization privatization fund Russian issues issues II think think it it will will agree agree on on the fund including in Moscow Moscow to to improve the including establishing establishing an an office office in improve the efficiency of our assistance This program will be useful efficiency of our assistance This program will be useful although than we we had had hoped hoped As As to to the the although the the fund fund will will be be smaller smaller than United States we have obligated over half of the program United States we have obligated over half of the program announced went back back to to Congress announced in in Vancouver Vancouver As As you you know know II went Congress for for another $1 8 billion This bill has passed the House by aa 75 75 another $1 8 billion This bill has passed the House by percent the Senate will pass pass there there percent margin margin It It is is now now before before the Senate and and will without any trouble I believe the G-7 summit will be a good one without any trouble I believe the G-7 summit will be a good one for Russia The fact that Japan is having trouble as are some for Russia The fact that Japan is having trouble as are some other to help help but but II think think other G-7 G-7 countries countries may may limit limit their their ability ability to it $ it will will be be aa success success C With Political Declaration Declaration it With regard regard to to Russia Russia signing signing the the Political it is is too late to change the G-7 structure and the other countries too late to change the G-7 structure and the other countries would meeting will will be be successful would not not agree agree But But II believe believe the the meeting successful and helpful to you back home 2 and helpful to you back home 3 Since with Congress to eliminate Since II met met with with you you II have have worked worked with Congress to eliminate Cold War restrictions on Russia We have pages and pages we we want want Cold War restrictions on Russia We have pages and pages to eliminate and we will proceed On Jackson-Yanik the only to eliminate and we will proceed On Jackson-Vanik the only thing the list refusniks that that thing standing standing between between us us on on that that is is the list of of refusniks you were going to provide as we discussed in Vancouver and what you were going to provide as we discussed in Vancouver and what you were going to do to resolve them Once we have that I think you were going to do to resolve them Once we have that I think there to do on there will will be be broad broad support support in in the the country country to do something something on Jackson-Yanik -5 Jackson-Vanik We package here here at home With With a a We are are moving moving forward forward on on the the aid aid package at home good aid package and the IMF decision this week I think Russia good aid package and the IMF decision this week I think Russia may based on the problems problems we we see may be be the the only only success success of of the the G-7 G-7 based on the see in the other countries I think it will be a good meeting in the other countries I think it will be a good meeting and and II am you J1 am looking looking forward forward to to meeting meeting with with you President thank you you Bill Bill for for your your optimistic optimistic President Yeltsin Yeltsin II thank forecast What you have been saying is extremely good As As to to forecast What you have been saying is extremely good refusniks we have no problems in this respect After our refusniks we have no problems in this respect After our discussion my people people to to look look into this discussion in in Vancouver Vancouver II asked asked my into this Eight people out of the 15 have been released As to the Eight people out of the 15 have been released As to the seven seven remaining just did to leave they have have neither neither remaining they they just did not not want want to leave --- they the to leave And II do not think think the possibility possibility or or the the opportunity opportunity to leave And do not this should create any problems in our relationship this should create any problems in our relationship And outcome of the G-7 And of of course course II hope hope for for the the positive positive outcome of the G-7 in maybe in Tokyo Tokyo II wouldn't wouldn't like like to to be be in in aa situation situation or or maybe would was would like like to to put put me me in in the the situation situation like like Gorbachev Gorbachev was he attended the summit in London where he came away with he attended the summit in London where he came away with nothing $ nothing iS President President Clinton Clinton That won't won't happen happen That U U President have aa good good and President Yeltsin Yeltsin II hope hope we we will will have and meeting Now we must convince the rest of the G-7 meeting Now we must convince the rest of the G-7 Russia going on well Russia The The rest xest of of the the process process is is going on well 8ECRE'f O SEGREf summit summit someone someone in when in when productive productive to help help to J2i - ECRE'f -SECRET- Clinton President Clinton President there you there and I'll II agree agree and I'll see see you Yeltsin President Yeltsin President it to it forward to looking forward I'm looking I'm Clinton President Clinton President yo Thank you Thank Yeltsin President Yeltsin President Good-bye Good-bye Conversation -of Conversation End of -- End -- egr-et- U U Boris night Boris Good night Good U U SEGRe - U U U U