SEGRE -SEGRET Si3CRE'r -9B€RBT 3X75 THE THE WHITE WHITE HOUSE HOUSE WASHINGTON WASHINGTON DECLASSIFIED PER E O 13526 E 0 13526 0 5 o 5- o13'l -M-'A oTSX-ro-'X '3 13 D Hl' H 3 iy '3 KQm MEMORANDUM MEMORANDUM OF OF CONVERSATION CONVERSATION SUBJECT SUBJECT Memcon Memcon with with President President Boris Boris Yeltsin Yeltsin of of Russia Russia U U PARTICIPANTS PARTICIPANTS The The President President Warren Warren Christopher Christopher Secretary Secretary of of State State Lloyd Bentsen Secretary of the Lloyd Bentsen Secretary of the Treasury Treasury Samuel Samuel Berger Berger Deputy Deputy Assistant Assistant to to the the President for National Security Affairs President for National Security Affairs Strobe Strobe Talbott Talbott Ambassador Ambassador at at Large Large and and Special Adviser to the Secretary New Special Adviser to the Secretary on on the the New Independent States Independent States Nicholas Burns Nicholas Burns Acting Acting Senior Senior Director Director for for Russia Ukraine and Eurasia Affairs Russia Ukraine and Eurasia Affairs NSC staff NSC staff notetaker notetaker President President Boris Boris Yeltsin Yeltsin Andrei Kozyrev Andrei Kozyrev Minister Minister of of Foreign Foreign Affairs Affairs Boris Federov Minister of Finance Boris Federov Minister of Finance Viktor Viktor Ilyushin Ilyushin First First Assistant Assistant to to President President Yeltsin Yeltsin Dmitri Dmitri Ryurikov Ryurikov Assistant Assistant to to President President Yeltsin Yeltsin Sergey Sergey Glaziev Glaziev Minister Minister of of Foreign Foreign Economic Economic Trade Notetaker Trade Notetaker July July 10 10 1993 1993 7 45 7 45 -- 9 15am 9 15am Ambassador's Residence Ambassador's Residence Tokyo Tokyo DATE TIME DATE TIME AND AND PLACE PLACE The Let me me begin begin now now so so we we don't don't run run out out of of time time The President President Let II would would like like to to speak speak about about three three matters matters today today First First II thought thought it would be helpful to provide a review of the issues it would be helpful to provide a review of the issues from from our our Vancouver Vancouver meeting meeting Second Second we we should should discuss discuss the the dispute dispute we we have have on on the the missiles missiles issue issue Third Third II also also want want to to discuss discuss aa few few foreign policy issues JZ foreign policy issues Let Let me me begin begin by by saying saying that that in in Vancouver Vancouver you you invited invited me me to to Russia If it is acceptable to you it now appears that Russia If it is acceptable to you it now appears that II come jl' come in in the the autumn autumn President President Yeltsin Yeltsin Is this this September September or or October October Is The We could could work work The President President We convenient to you and me convenient to you and me If If flexible flexible SECRET• Declassify Declassify on on OADR OADR visit visit could could out the the dates dates later later at at a a time time out it is better for you to wait it is better for you to wait II am am SECRE'f SEGREl '-55 ' SESRE '-SECRE'f jECRB¥- President President Yeltsin Yeltsin The On The President President On Vancouver we have Vancouver we have either either already already out out Very good good Very U U the $1 6 $1 6 billion billion package package II announced announced the already obligated 65% of the already obligated 65% of the money money there there or or coming coming out out soon soon President President Yeltsin Yeltsin Good Good in in It It is is U U The We'll stay stay on on top top of of that that On On your your request request for for The President President We'll Cold War legislation and the COCOM regime we've first prepared Cold War legislation and the COCOM regime we've first prepared aa very very long long list list of of Cold Cold War War legislation legislation to to repeal repeal We We have have the the support of both political parties in the Congress We'll support of both political parties in the Congress We'll start start this 3J this when when II go go home home On On COCOM COCOM President President Yeltsin Yeltsin How long long will will it it take take How U U Secretary It will will probably probably be be done done before before the the Secretary Christopher Christopher It Thanksgiving recess ye' Thanksgiving recess p2 The The President President This year year This U U President President Yeltsin Yeltsin Not bad bad Not U U Secretary Secretary Bentsen Bentsen Congress U Congress U That That is is aa very very fast fast schedule schedule for for our our President President Yeltsin Yeltsin This is is why why II said said it's it's good good This U U The Congress may may act act faster faster for for you you than than for for me me On On The President President Congress COCOM of course this involves other countries we will support COCOM of course this involves other countries we will support aa reorganization business We reorganization of of COCOM COCOM for for new new business We already already have have aa long long list of items we want to see liberalized -machine tools · list of items we want to see liberalized -- machine tools computers and telecommunications such as fiber optics These computers and telecommunications such as fiber optics These are are things things you you are are interested interested in in Jn President It would would be be good good if if we we could could take take part part in in President Yeltsin Yeltsin It this new organization this new organization V The The President President Secretary Secretary will will take take countries countries How long long will will it take for for us us to to act act How it take Christopher The review review of of COCOM COCOM will will be be complex complex and and Christopher The aa lot of time It involves negotiations with other lot of time It involves negotiations with other which be deliberate which will will be deliberate President President Yeltsin Yeltsin The The President President Yes Yes U U We will will do do what what we we can can to to speed speed it it up up We U U On On Jackson-Yanik Jackson-Vanik you you and and II have have talked talked about about cases cases you you have have processed I went back to the people in the U S and processed I went back to the people in the U S and we we have have 65 65 cases of people who want to leave I would like to give you cases of people who want to leave I would like to give you that that list judgments about yS1 list and and make make judgments about each each case case President President Yeltsin Yeltsin set up set up µn -SECRE' E' - CRET' You persons You mean mean new new persons SE6REl A being A new new list list is is being CECRET The The the the President parently we we have have a a difference difference of of opinion opinion on on President parently numbers 8' numbers President Well after we discussed discussed this this II checked checked with with President Yeltsin Yeltsin Well after we the Security Ministry They told me there were only 17 people the Security Ministry They told me there were only 17 people of new will study of whom whom only only 66 remain remain now now Your Your list list is is new II will study it it and give you my opinion and give you my opinion The As we we move move to to graduate graduate you you out out of of Jackson-Vanik Jackson-Yanik The President President As from You and from time time to to time time there there will will be be other other cases cases You and II don't don't need to discuss this every time I suggest there be aa process process so need to discuss this every time I suggest there be so we time We We can refer the the cases we don't don't have have to to discuss discuss it it every every time can refer cases to ii to this this process process President President Yeltsin Yeltsin Commission Commission He He is is arise Lavrov arise Lavrov will will up a a commission commission on on this this II set set up aa Deputy to Kozyrev Thus Deputy to Kozyrev Thus if if discuss fo discuss them them -- the the Lavrov Lavrov -any questions any questions The We want want to to close the deal deal on on HEU HEU We We have have an an The President President We close the agreement on the value -$12 billion But we need you to agreement on the value -- $12 billion But we need you to negotiate Kazakhstan on the funds negotiate an·agreement an agreement with with Ukraine Ukraine and and Kazakhstan on the funds We want to close this deal 21 We want to close this deal President As for Belarus this this is is Russian Russian property property As President Yeltsin Yeltsin As for Belarus As for Ukraine the process is complicated We have agreed that for Ukraine the process is complicated We have agreed that warheads will be be dismantled warheads with with weapons weapons grade grade uranium uranium will dismantled and and returned to Russia We will then send back enriched uranium to to returned to Russia We will then send back enriched uranium Ukraine for their nuclear power stations But you understand Ukraine for their nuclear power stations But you understand that with Ukraine Ukraine Today they they that it it is is always always difficult difficult to to deal deal with Today agree tomorrow they backtrack So I ask you to press Ukraine agree tomorrow they backtrack So I ask you to press Ukraine on on this 31 this X The The President President It's the the same with us us It's same case case with Sfo1' X' II have mention First II am am pleased pleased have aa couple couple of of other other issues issues to to mention First that we apparently have your support on nuclear testing and that we apparently have your support on nuclear testing and aa move Ban treaty treaty thank you you for move toward toward aa Comprehensive Comprehensive Test Test Ban II thank for your leadership on this your leadership on this X President President Yeltsin Yeltsin V The The President President X Not China Not China China observing China is is observing They are now They are now y£1 Maybe you you can get them them to to move move Maybe can get President President Yeltsin Yeltsin The The President President You mean mean an an agreement agreement with with all all five five You Not with with China but with with the the UK UK and and France France Not China but President President Yeltsin Yeltsin The The President President Okay Okay 0 Maybe you you can can get get them them to to agree agree Maybe President Yeltsin think that that when when the the big big four four sign sign the the President __________ Yeltsin II think treaty China will have to comply Anyway technologically they treaty China will have to comply Anyway technologically they are not advanced so they don't represent a threat We are are not advanced so they don't represent a threat We are SECRE'J -OECRET- OJ -sEGRE f oirr -sEyRET ■CECRCT testing testing the the most most modern modern technology technology and and they they don't don't have have this this technology $ technology The I'm on on my my way way to to Korea Korea Things Things are are tense tense with with The President President I'm North Korea We question whether they will let inspectors North Korea We question whether they will let inspectors in in and and join the NPT We have had good cooperation on this issue join the NPT We have had good cooperation on this issue II hope big issue hope our our cooperation cooperation can can continue continue It It is is aa big issue Many Many Japanese brought it up with me They don't want be aa nuclear Japanese brought it up with me They don't want to to be nuclear power But power But there there is is aa serious serious debate debate here here on on this this So So II hope hope we can continue our cooperation on this we can continue our cooperation on this There There are are aa couple couple of of other other issues issues We We are are very very concerned concerned about about Iran and the things we see them doing We know they Iran and the things we see them doing We know they have have had had some some discussions discussions with with you you about about the the sale sale of of reactors reactors We We hope hope you don't do that We discussed this in Vancouver JI you don't do that We discussed this in Vancouver President No we we discussed discussed the the sale of nuclear nuclear President Yeltsin Yeltsin No sale of submarines to Iran We have already discussed the submarines to Iran We have already discussed the fact fact that that we we sent -them the hull of a sub without the nuclear reactor sent them the hull of a sub without the nuclear reactor And And this but material this reactor reactor for for the the sub sub will will not not use use heavy heavy water water but material under IAEA guarantees It can't be used as a weapon under IAEA guarantees It can't be used as a weapon only only as as an an engine You understand that this reactor can be verified not engine You understand that this reactor can be verified not only by the only by the IAEA·but IAEA but by by experts experts in in your your own own country country Before Before Vancouver we had an agreement to sell two submarines Vancouver we had an agreement to sell two submarines After After Vancouver Vancouver we we canceled canceled the the second second sale sale If If you you want want to to send send aa representative to verify that reactor you can do it it1 representative to verify that reactor you can do it The The President President We would would like like to to do do so so We President President Yeltsin Yeltsin By all means By all means The There is is another another issue issue Every time time II see see you you II The President President There Every get pressure at home on the Lubavitcher Library We discussed get pressure at home on the Lubavitcher Library We discussed this before II would this before would like like to to name name someone someone who who works works for for me me to to work with someone who works for you So then I can tell work with someone who works for you So then I can tell Congress Congress about about this this --- they they vote vote on on Russia Russia aid aid II would would like like to to name someone who works for me and you can name someone J 2'f name someone who works for me and you can name someone President promised in in Vancouver Vancouver to to do do something something and and President Yeltsin Yeltsin II promised I've done it I opened up the public library to them so they I've done it I opened up the public library to them so they can can see books II said see the the books said they they could could copy copy the the samples samples So So they they now now have have this this right right They They can can come come anytime anytime to to look look at at it it In In the the past public Today past it it was was closed closed to to the the public Today it it is is open open The We went went at at this this before before The President President We owns the books · owns the books X President Let's do do it it President Yeltsin Yeltsin Let's Culture Mr Siderov will deal Culture Mr Siderov will deal The The President President staff C$ staff X -SeCRET- way Our Our Minister Minister of of way this 81 this And II will will assign assign Leon Leon Fuerth Fuerth who who is is on on our our And President President Yeltsin Yeltsin -S-13CRE'f' this this with with The The dispute dispute is is about about who who So let them them cooperate cooperate So let -SE6RE f y9-f cx -5E6REf --SEGRE'¥- - B€-RE Minister Minister Kozyrev Kozyrev Lubavitchers Lubavitchers prays prays About every three months months a a family family of of About every three outside my office y91 outside my office The missile issue issue know this this The President President Let's Let's talk talk about about the the missile II know is a difficult issue for you I understand that now even though is a difficult issue for you I understand that now even though in to terminate terminate the the India India deal in Vancouver Vancouver II thought thought we we had had agreed agreed to deal II understand this is a difficult matter But it seems to me me that that understand this is a difficult matter But it seems to there is a lot to be gained bJ Russia in Space Launch and Space there is a lot to be gained by Russia in Space Launch and Space projects 5' projects to to be be discussed discussed President President Yeltsin Yeltsin The The our our you you The Freedom project project The Freedom President want to avoid restrictions restrictions under under our our law law and and in in President II want to avoid policy which require sanctions So I thought I would give policy which require sanctions So I thought I would give aa chance we can can work work it 5fr' chance to to comment comment to to see see how how we it out out President No There be no no sanctions sanctions between between President Yeltsin Yeltsin No There should should be friends I cannot imagine sanctions between us We're friends I cannot imagine sanctions between us We're friends friends II would good job job But But our component would say say that that Mr Mr Talbott Talbott did did aa good our component of job We We said negotiators of the the commission commission did did aa very very bad bad job said our our negotiators couldn't stop the deal with the Indians or declare a moratorium couldn't stop the deal with the Indians or declare a moratorium on the deal We might have suggested that both India and Russia Russia on the deal We might have suggested that both India and join the MTCR Now I -am changing our Commission They got bad join the MTCR Now I am changing our Commission They got bad marks They are fired Now Koptiev will be in charge Talbott marks They are fired Now Koptiev will be in charge Talbott knows At least when knows him him He He is is aa professional professional expert expert in in space space At least when we launch spaceships his is the first signature C 81 we launch spaceships his is the first signature II know would like to propose propose the the know you you understand understand this this and and II would like to following India opposes a change They will try to gain following India opposes a change They will try to gain something the new new commission commission something from from us us and and from from you you II suggest suggest the have until the New Year to agree with India to stop the deal At have until the New Year to agree with India to stop the deal At the same time there would be a moratorium on your sanctions the same time there would be a moratorium on your sanctions The passed your your law law after the USSR USSR The law law can't can't be be retroactive retroactive You You passed after the signed the deal with India So a double moratorium to signed the deal with India So a double moratorium to January during this this time time And And January 1 1 We We will will provide provide no no technology technology during for you it will mean no sanctions until January 1 This sounds for you it will mean no sanctions until January 1 This sounds reasonable jilf reasonable The Let me me make make a a counter-proposal which is is not not The President President Let counter-proposal which inconsistent with what you have said Since you have a new inconsistent with what you have said Since you have a new group why don't you send them to Washington next week Under group why don't you send them to Washington next week Under our law and policy we need to be able to say progress is being our law and policy we need to be able to say progress is being made You send your team and then I'll have the basis to made You send your team and then I'll have the basis to extend extend the negotiate in good faith the deadline deadline because because II believe believe you'll you'll negotiate in good faith In In the the meanwhile meanwhile II have have another another suggestion suggestion President President Yeltsin Yeltsin The The and and Yes Yes U U President Your teajn te JU could put your your proposal proposal on on the the table table President Your could put mine could too e' mine could too President President Yeltsin Yeltsin For a a moratorium moratorium For Q1 The We will will put put another proposal on on the the table table and and if if The President President We another proposal you agree we would like to involve Ambassador Pickering in an you agree we would like to involve Ambassador Pickering in an effort India He was was in in India India before before effort to to resolve resolve the the problem problem with with India He CRE'i' ECRBT' O i J B tL» SECRET -SECRErrMoscow Moscow for for them them We We may may be be able able Odo to do something something for for India India which which is is good good and for us and for us President President Yeltsin Yeltsin Very good good Very Agreed Agreed U U The It is is important important that that they they come come on on Monday Monday due due to to The President President It the deadline We need to show the world We have to try as the deadline We need to show the world We have to try as hard hard as we can not just with you but with India China Pakistan to as we can not just with you but with India China Pakistan to stop undeistand that stop the the nightmare nightmare of of the the 21st 21st century century You You must must understand that this is a very important issue I feel it is a very this is a very important issue I feel it is a very important important issue jobs for your team issue --- one one of of my my jobs for the the whole whole world world You You send send your team and 1 and we'll we'll talk talk President President Yeltsin Yeltsin I The The President President summer cjt summer jt Yes When When Yes U U Anytime this this summer summer Anytime President President Yeltsin Yeltsin The The President President meeting meeting U U They will will be be in in Washington Washington on on Monday Monday They Now can can we we reschedule reschedule Gore-Chernomyrdin Gore-Chernomyrdin for for this this Now President President Yeltsin Yeltsin The The President President Okay Okay August is is fine fine August U U U U A lot lot of of good good things things can can come come out out of of this this A President President Yeltsin Yeltsin Okay Okay U U The There are are two two energy energy projects projects which which we we believe believe The President President There will be good for you and for us First is the $10 billion will be good for you and for us First is the $10 billion Sakhalin project The project in Sakhalin project The other other is is the the Texaco Texaco project in the the Arctic Arctic Circle Can you give me some idea on the status of these Circle Can you give me some idea on the status of these President As to to the the Sakhalin project the the competition competition President Yeltsin Yeltsin As Sakhalin project is ended A number of firms prepared technical material It was is ended A number of firms prepared technical material It was very useful Japan and South Korea will profit from this But very useful Japan and South Korea will profit from this But the pipeline must North Korea the pipeline must go go through through North Korea and and this this is is aa most most difficult path for a pipeline at the bottom of the bay The difficult path for a pipeline at the bottom of the bay The U S U S firms won this competition As to the other project we firms won this competition As to the other project we have have just finished prospecting for II would just finished prospecting for reserves reserves would say say that that the the Academy of Sciences has depicted what this project would Academy of Sciences has depicted what this project would look look like like YZ The When we we were were in in Vancouver Vancouver we we discussed discussed the the The President President When inspection been inspection teams teams for for the the biological biological weapons weapons sites sites II have have been told that our teams were not allowed to visit I wanted to told that our teams were not allowed to visit I wanted to raise raise this to see if we could work out a visit yi1 this to see if we could work out a visit President Yesterday II was was told told there there was was a a technical technical President Yeltsin Yeltsin Yesterday mishap in planning the visit I will give my instructions mishap in planning the visit I will give my instructions on on this this as as soon soon as as II return return to to Moscow Moscow All All the the sites sites are are closed closed You bureaucrats doing You can can check check this this anytime anytime These These are are old old bureaucrats doing this Kuntsevich is the Chairman of our special If this Kuntsevich is the Chairman of our special committee committee If -SECR-El'f' - ECRfiT- D_CX -6E6REf €RE -geCRE he he will will be be fired immediately he is is responsible responsible for for this this delay delay he fired immediately BJ X The You were were forthright yesterday on on the the Baltics Baltics and and The President President You forthright yesterday on the problems of the Russians in Estonia We have been on the problems of the Russians in Estonia We have been pressing to this this problem problem We We pressing Estonia Estonia to to make make them them more more sensitive sensitive to believe it is important for them to respect the rights of the believe it is important for them to respect the rights of the Russians your troops troops We We are Russians but but also also for for you you to to withdraw withdraw your are willing to do more on the Baltic issue if you have suggestions willing to do more on the Baltic issue if you have suggestions If y81 If it it would would help help we we will will do do more more President would like like you you to to make make aa legal legal President Yeltsin Yeltsin II would investigation of the laws to show how they discriminate investigation of the laws to show how they discriminate Whatever they disagree 9'j Whatever we we tell tell them them about about this this they disagree The The President President I'll what we we can do I'll see see what can do On the G-7 G-7 agreed to help help On Georgia Georgia before before you you came came in in yesterday yesterday the agreed to economically I hope you will do what you can to help bring economically I hope you will do what you can to help bring an an end we·want end to to the the Abhaz Abhaz rebellion rebellion Shevardnadze Shevardnadze is is our friend our friend We want to there if he is not We We just just to help help him him II wonder wonder who who would would be be there if he is not need to help him We received a letter from him on his problems need to help him We received a letter from him on his problems and We will will do do more more hope and he's he's almost almost not not the the same same person person We II hope you can use your influence with the Abhaz C 81 you can use your influence with the Abhaz President Yesterday we we supported supported the the UNSC UNSC resolution resolution President Yeltsin Yeltsin Yesterday to send observers to Georgia Let's begin with that Let's to send observers to Georgia Let's begin with that Let's consider what else to do As for Eduard Shevardnadze treat consider what else to do As for Eduard Shevardnadze II treat him with great respect I don't know either who could replace him with great respect I don't know either who could replace him $ him X The be helpful helpful and to do what we we The President President On On Japan Japan II want want to to be and to do what can to help your relationship Of course I have mixed feelings can to help your relationship Of course I have mixed feelings about business opportunities about this this since since they they may may push push us us out out of of business opportunities in Russia But it is important for you to have a a good good in Russia But it is important for you to have relationship with Japan There is a limitation on their military military relationship with Japan There is a limitation on their power The only way they can be a world power is through power The only way they can be a world power is through investment Miyazawa talked talked investment This This trip trip helped helped your your stature stature Miyazawa about it over and over last night You should work out the about it over and over last night You should work out the details of your trip here in the autumn Anything we can to details of your trip here in the autumn Anything we can do do to help we will do I believe that Japan can help Russia to develop help we will do I believe that Japan can help Russia to develop more y9'1 more quickly quickly President you for your part part in in this this We We agreed agreed President Yeltsin Yeltsin Thank Thank you for your on October 12-14 for the visit Of course you understand the on October 12-14 for the visit Of course you understand the difficulties I will have in arriving at an optimal decision on difficulties I will have in arriving at an optimal decision on the islands by October y9 the islands by October Now my issues issues to to raise raise Now you you have have gone gone through through the the list list of of all all my U U The We can't joke about the Japanese Japanese That That wasn't wasn't The President President We can't joke about the your fault though It was the Canadian press µr5' your fault though It was the Canadian press ■HgECRET CMC -SECRET SECRE'f GEGRE ' President You have have gone through all all my my list list of of issues issues President Yeltsin Yeltsin You gone through There must be two copies of the list of issues one in English There must be two copies of the list of issues one in English and U and the the other other in in Russian Russian U The The President President II can can see see aa Boris Yeltsin have the Boris Yeltsin have the same same President President Yeltsin Yeltsin Intelligence Intelligence They They scandal emerging --- Bill Bill Clinton Clinton and and scandal emerging staff e e1' staff You have have your your CIA CIA We We have have Russian Russian Foreign Foreign You both have to earn their money JX both have to earn their money On the level On Nagorno-Karabakh Nagorno-Karabakh we we should should raise raise the level of of our our cooperation $ cooperation The The President President II agree agree U U President and Kozyrev Kozyrev discussed discussed President Yeltsin Yeltsin Secretary Secretary Christopher Christopher and this They should cooperate more We can't ignore the bloodshed this They should cooperate more We can't ignore the bloodshed there there On that Sevastopol On Ukraine Ukraine yesterday yesterday our our Supreme Supreme Soviet Soviet said said that Sevastopol is is aa Russian city It is a peculiar situation Sevastopol on Russian city It is a peculiar situation Sevastopol is is on Ukrainian When II get back Ukrainian territory territory It It is is aa very very odd odd decree decree When get back II will have to work on relations with Ukraine Thank God no one will have to work on relations with Ukraine Thank God no one takes the Supreme Soviet seriously yr5 takes the Supreme Soviet seriously Perhaps would Perhaps we we could could tell tell Ukraine Ukraine that that it it would of us to have a signed agreement on nuclear of us to have a signed agreement on nuclear The The President President Good Good be good good for the three three be for the weapons y r'f weapons U U President President Yeltsin Yeltsin So So let's let's prepare prepare our our instructions instructions The They referring The President President They referring Ambassador Talbott Ambassador Talbott say say we we have have How How do do glared glared to to to to Secretary Christopher Christopher and and Secretary talk about this talk about this ij f you in Russian Russian you say say if if looks looks could could kill kill in theatrically at Secretary Christopher theatrically at Secretary Christopher President President Yeltsin Yeltsin The The President President after Yeltsin after Yeltsin Q1 want to to extend the IAEA IAEA functions functions II want extend the To do do what what To The answer answer is positive right right The is positive The Very II believe believe in in this this The President President Very trying In trying We We need need to to work work to to expand expand it it In Secretary of State points out the IAEA is Secretary of State points out the IAEA is understaffed Si' understaffed President President Yeltsin Yeltsin Okay Okay suggest II suggest yS-f j Q1 We have have to to keep keep We this case as the this case as the underfunded and underfunded and U U The The NPT NPT treaty treaty ends ends in in 1995 1995 Y21' J e-J U U President For verification verification and and monitoring monitoring President Yeltsin Yeltsin For that we extend their prerogatives for nuclear power that we extend their prerogatives for nuclear power Minister Minister Kozyrev Kozyrev U U We indefinite duration We favor favor an an indefinite duration --6-ECRE'f SECRET tWTtCTF jEgRE'P -SEC-REF 99 The We do do too too This This is is a a big big issue issue in in Korea Korea That's That's The President President We also why the North Korea issue is important in Japan The also why the North Korea issue is important in Japan The Japanese Japanese are are looking looking at at 1995 1995 All All the the older older Japanese Japanese politicians politicians who remember World War Two and who want Japan to be a who remember World War Two and who want Japan to be a great great economic power want NPT to be maintained economic power want the the NPT to be maintained They They trust trust the the U S North Korea U S But But if if North Korea hangs hangs out out some some of of the the younger younger Japanese Japanese may ur may argue argue for for aa different different tactic tactic --- End End of of Conversation Conversation -- ■GECRBT-