· 6715 6715 SECRE'fGECnB¥“ THE THE WHITE WHITE HOUSE HOUSE WASHINGTON WASHINGTON DECLASSIFIED PER E O 13526 E 0 13526 PvO 5'0731-ca-1 Q l 0 5 01Sl- f 1-1 1 oi' 3f o i ei -1 3 Ya o v svl MEMORANDUM MEMORANDUM OF OF TELEPHONE TELEPHONE CONVERSATION CONVERSATION SUBJECT SUBJECT Telcon Telcon with with President President Boris Boris Yeltsin Yeltsin of of the the Russian Federation U Russian Federation U PARTICIPANTS The President The President President Yeltsin President Yeltsin Interpreter Demitry Zarechnak Zarechnak Interpreter Demitry Notetaker Beth Sanner Notetaker Beth Banner DATE TIME DATE PLACE TIME AND September 7 1993 11 40am - 12 10pm September 7 1993 11 40am - 12 10pm Oval Oval Office Office PARTICIPANTS AND PLACE The President Hello Boris The President Hello Boris President Yeltsin President Yeltsin U U Greetings Bill Greetings Bill U U The just wanted wanted to to call call and and check check in in with with you you The President President II just II haven't talked with you since the G-7 summit I know you are haven'tthrough talked some withdifficult you since times the G-7 I summit I you knowtoyou are that going just want know going through some difficult times I just want you to know that I'm thinking ot you in these difficult times and to tell you I'm thinking of you in these difficult times and to tell you still still have have my my support support pt' Prime Minister Chernomyrdin was just here It was Prime Minister Chernomyrdin was off just here It start was aa ongreat great He and Vice President Gore got to a great He and Vice President Gore got off to a great start on the the Agreement on S ace Cooperation and the Joint Commission on Agreement on ace Cooperation and the Joint Commission on and Space · and Space visit visit Energy Energy President Bill II am am also also satisfied satisfied that that at at last last II have have President Yeltsin Yeltsin Bill a chance to talk and to ha·ve discussions on a number of a chance to talk and to have discussions on a number of questions II am also satiified with the results of visit of questions am also satisfied with the results of visit of Prime Minister Chernomyrdin and the first results of the GorePrime Minister Chernomyrdin and the first results of the GoreChernomyrdin Chernomyrdin Commission Commission if if II can can call call it it that that j2'1 The am as as well well hope we we can can move move forward forward and and do do The President President II am II hope more work on energy projects and environmental cleanup These more work on energy projects and environmental cleanup These are participate in are areas areas that that U S U S compariies companies are are anxious anxious to to participate in There are a number of large projects pending approval There are a number of large projects pending approval in in the the oil oil and and gas gas sector sector Prime Prime Minister Minister Chernomyrdin Chernomyrdin said said he he would would speed speed the been in the process process Texaco Texaco has has been in touch touch with with me me concerning concerning their their deal at Timon Pechora I hope we can make progress deal at Timon Pechora I hope we can make progress on on these these things because II think things because think they they can can be be aa help help to to the the Russian Russian economy economy C C President agree We We will will take tak the the necessary necessary steps steps President Yeltsin Yeltsin II agree It's a pity we couldn't sign the contract on Highly Enriched It's a pity we couldn't sign the contract on Highly Enriched Sli CRli -SECRKS Declassify Declassify on on OADR OADR -SEGRET -SEGREf ·--eEJCRET •-seeRerUranium promptly and Uranium We We must must move move promptly and settle settle the the Ukrainian Ukrainian aspect aspect of this problem BJ of this problem The II will do what II can resolution of The President President will do what can to to support support resolution of that I understand you had a successful meeting with President that I understand you had a successful meeting with President Kravchuk Kravchuk Did Did you you reach reach agreement agreement on on early early deactivation deactivation of of missiles in Ukraine and transfer to Russia missiles in Ukraine and transfer to Russia C50 President President Yeltsin Yeltsin II must must tell tell you you about about Crimea Crimea This This was was one one of the most productive meetings we have had with Ukraine of the most productive meetings we have had with Ukraine with with Kravchuk We finally agreement on nuclear Kravchuk The We agreement finally reached reached agreement on strategic strategic nuclear weapons calls for the total removal in weapons The agreement calls for for their the total removal in As24 24 a months months of nuclear warheads to Russia elimination trade of nuclear warheads to Russia for their elimination As a trade off we will give Ukraine Low Enriched Uranium for use at nuclear off we will give Ukraine Low Enriched Uranium for use at nuclear power plants $ power plants Of are willingness to provide $175 Of course coursein they they are aware aware of ofButU S U S willingness to provide $175 million compensation they are not satisfied with that million in compensation But they are not satisfied with that figure And they would like to obtain more from you II told figure And they would like to obtain more from you told them they would to that with the II said them that that theyUkraine would need need to resolve resolvewith that the with the itU S U S said that now that has relations U S is up that now that Ukraine has relations with the U S it is up to to the the two resolve this two sides sides to to resolve this matter matter 2' We also Ukraine We also resolved resolved the the Black Black Sea Sea Fleet Fleet matter matter finally finally As As Ukraine owes $2 5 billion to Russia we will get their part of the fleet owespayment $2 5 billion to debt Russia With we will get their part of the the fleet fleet as for this this eventuality all as payment for this debt With this eventuality all the fleet will belong to Russia and we will keep the base at Sevastopol I will belong Crimea to Russia and we will·highly keep the base at Sevastopol I believe the productive yS1 believe the Crimea trip trip has has been been highly productive President Thanks How The The President Thanks he How Kravchuk Kravchuk at at home home Is Is he in in President Yeltsin President Yeltsin do you do you better better No worse off No worse off assess the position of assess position of shape the shape Si The The President President Same Same with with all all of of us us maybe maybe President place the President Yeltsin Yeltsin Well Well in in the the first first place the situation situation concerns the state of the economy They have gotten off to a concerns the state of the economy They have gotten off to a of late start for economic reform compared to Russia Because late start for economic reform compared to Russia Because of this they are in bad economic shape S' this they are in bad economic shape Sr The The President President II understand understand that that Congratulations Congratulations on on your your decision to withdraw your troops from Lithuania I know you decision to withdraw your troops from Lithuania I know you face face domestic opposition But the decision you made was courageous domestic opposition But the decision you made was courageous and the right thing plans for and the and right thing to to 81do do II was was wondering wondering about about your your plans for Estonia Latvia Estonia and Latvia President place next pull President Yeltsin Yeltsin In In the the first first place next week week we we will will pull out all our troops from Poland f out all our troops from Poland The The President President Great Great U U President President Yeltsin Yeltsin In In Latvia Latvia and and Estonia Estonia it it is is more more difficult difficult because of their failure to comply with the human rights of because of their failure to comply with the human rights of ethnic Russians living there ethnic Russians living there SECftE'f SECRET -SEGREF - -SIJCRE f - -SECRETThe The President President SEBRE f Z ST Is there there anything anything we we can can do do to to push push that that Is President Only in in the the sense sense that that you you can can try try to to exert exert President Yeltsin Yeltsin Only influence on them so that they can change their legislation influence on them so that they can change their legislation especially especially in in the the sense sense that that it it affects affects Russia Russia We We pulled pulled out out from because their from Lithuania Lithuania because their legislation legislation does does not not adversely adversely affect be prepared pull out affect Russians Russians living living there there We We would would be prepared to to pull out from Latvia and Estonia provided there are no discriminatory from Latvia and Estonia provided there are no discriminatory attitudes attitudes toward toward Russians Russians there there We We are are taking taking queue queue from from the the U S because you have been working quite well in the area U S because you have been working quite well in the area of of protecting your protecting your minorities minorities The wanted to to raise raise a a few few other other issues issues with with you you The President President II wanted Congress is back in session today I want you to know we will be Congress is back in session today I want you to know we will be working ·hard on passing the $2 5 billion assistance package for working hard on passing the $2 5 billion assistance package for Russia before the passed the Russia It It is is now now before the Senate Senate it it has has already already passed the House It will be a difficult fight but I think we will House It will be a difficult fight but I think we will win win it it It because there It is is difficult difficult not not because there isn't isn't support support for for Russian Russian aid aid the because of budget problems problems But the difficulties difficulties are are because of our our own own budget But I'm I'm confident we will win it if confident we will win it We planning on passing aa law We also also are are planning on passing law this this fall fall to to eliminate eliminate the the legislative remnants of the Cold War system We also are working legislative remnants of the Cold War system We also are working on hope to on transforming transforming COCOM COCOM with with our our allies allies and and we we hope to get get aa new new system where you could be members c system where you could be members We breakthrough in We are are very very encouraged encouraged about about the the recent recent breakthrough in the the Israeli-Palestinian negotiations We look forward to Israeli-Palestinian negotiations We look forward to working working with with you you on on this this important important issue issue Secretary Secretary Christopher Christopher recently recently talked to Foreign Minister Kozyrev about coming talked to Foreign Minister Kozyrev about coming to to Washington Washington for for the the signing signing ceremony ceremony II hope hope to to find find out out in in the the next next couple couple of of days that this will come about Z' 3 President am very very appreciative appreciative of of your your stand stand on on President Yeltsin Yeltsin II am granting us $2 5 billion and your efforts with the Congress granting us $2 5 billion and your efforts with the Congress on on enacting package II know uphill battle battle But enacting this this package know this this is is an an uphill But II know repeal of pieces of know you you will will win win and and also also on on the the repeal of the the 60 60 pieces of legislation you just mentioned as well as on COCOM In legislation you just mentioned as well as on COCOM reform reform In respect to the Middle East and Palestine I wish to congratulate respect to the Middle East and Palestine I wish to congratulate you you on on this this victory victory and and of of course course Kozyrev Kozyrev will will go go there there II will will instruct him appropriately fo'1 instruct him appropriately We We still still have have the the question question of of Yugoslavia Yugoslavia will have to work jointly with will have to work jointly with the the Serbs Serbs resolution on this issue resolution on this issue to to so so discuss discuss Here Here we we can can finally finally we we have have The Thank you you hope we we can can resolve resolve this this through through The President President Thank II hope the peace talks The Serbs and Croats seem more willing the peace talks The Serbs and Croats seem more willing to to negotiate for peace recently negotiate for peace recently If If there there is is anything anything you you can can do do to to help resolve this issue we would very much appreciate it We help resolve this issue we would very much appreciate it We seem seem fairly fairly close close on on the the land land issue issue II hope hope we we can can resolve resolve the the negotiations before winter I am worried about going negotiations before winter I am worried about going through through another J 1 another winter winter over over there there without without peace peace President President Yeltsin Yeltsin Bill Bill II can can continue to work very hard with continue to work very hard with -SECRE'f gcCRET- simply simply assure assure you you that that we we the Serbs Before coming the Serbs Before coming -SEGREt will will to to the the -· SEGRE F -SECRET ' -fi-DGRDTU S U S Kozyrev Kozyrev more more pressure pressure will he can can do put will fly fly to to Sarajevo Sarajevo so so he do something something and and put on the Serbs $' on the Serbs JS Bill II am very Bill am very appreciative appreciative of of happy we happy we the the fact fact had had you you this chance to talk talk I am quite this chance to I am quite called this time time ej called first first this I2j The won't be be long till The President President It It won't long till me anytime If I don't hear from you me anytime If I don't hear from you couple of weeks Jli couple of weeks jt we talk talk we soon soon II again Please Please call call again will call you in will call you in aa President you within within a a very very short short time time President Yeltsin Yeltsin I'll I'll call call you especially in connection with questions about our domestic life especially in connection with questions aboutnow ourengaged domestic life and the situation in parliament I'm right in a bit and fighting the situation in parliament I'mmoving right away now engaged in a bit of with parliament which is from reforms and of fighting with parliament which is But moving awaythat fromin reforms and the changes we are trying to make I hope the long the changes we are trying to make But I hope that in the long run run II will will prevail prevail $' The President The President I' C hope so II surely surely hope so We will be pulling for you We will be pulling for you President Thank you you Bill Bill II am am very very glad glad to to have have had had President Yeltsin Yeltsin Thank this conversation and to hear your voice U this conversation and to hear your voice The The President President Thank Thank you you Boris Boris President President Yeltsin Yeltsin Goodbye Goodbye U Good bye bye Good U U U U -- End of Conversation -- End of Conversation -- -SECRBT SEGRE r-SECRET-