MEMJRA NDUM MEMORANDUM FOR FOR THE THE RECORD RECORD SUBJECT Telephonic Telephonic Response Response of of Dr Dr Gottlieb Gottlieb to to Our Our Letter Letter of of 30 April 1979 The following replies are keyed to to the questions in referenced letter 1 The LSD used by by White was packaged packaged as a solution in approxi approxi­ mately 80 microgram microgram units units in in plastic plastic ampoules ampoules The The LSD LSD was was sometimes sometimes mately packaged in combination with meratran packaged 2 practical--there was no set 2 Follow-up was conducted when practical--there practice practice 3 White's reports on drug tests were submitted in his own handwriting The identity of the subject was not mentioned Dr believe that any tests were conducted in Dr Gottlieb does not believe in the 60's New York safehouse Greenwich Towers was obtained 60's The New by by new people brought in to take over management of the program The new project officers felt we needed a facility on each coast for contingency contingency purposes purposes He does not believe any unwitting testing was performed performed in New York after White's departure from New New York in 1955 4 Unwitting testing was performed performed to explore the full range of the operational use of LSD Both interrogation and provoking erratic behavior behavior were of interest 5 were were no other safehouses involved in the 5 ThereThere no other safehouses involved in Program the Program Gottlieb · in White's White's diary diary may Gottlieb has has no no idea idea to to what what in may have have referred 6 White had a fertile imagination and a literary mind which c o n ju r e d u p B H H M H B H H H m H B B I i B B I I H i He has no other explanation for it Appro ©at SUBJECT Telephonic Response Response of of Dr Dr Gottlieb Gottlieb to to Our Our Letter Letter of of Telephonic 30 April 1979 I I · • 7 breakdown of 7 He He remembers remembers no no breakdown of types types of of tests tests and and no no accurate accurate count of the tests As he recalls the number was probably probably about 40 He recalls nothing nothing which would identify any specific tests or t es or test test si_ sites 8 He Imows New York during knows nothing of a second apartment in New 6 0 's TSD the 60 TSD has nothing to do with any apartment which may have been procured procured by Ira Feldman I I